RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)

Gunner

Bit risky playing the two walking injuries in the same game.

insert Ardie to 12 jokes here

Chris B.

Up the airy mountain, down the rushy glen
We may not be a winnin'
If we've too many little men
Wee folk, good folk
Trooping all together
Black jersey, black socks
And a white ferny feather.

I like having a big loosie like Frizell - at least on the bench!

Bones

@Chris-B something something Eric and Os? Good duo I agree.

Go Frizell!

Bovidae

@taniwharugby said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

Makes you wonder what our backline would have been like if DMac hadn't gotten injured...his injury opened the door for Mounga

DMac's introduction was the start of the dual playmaker gameplan so I think they would have persevered with that combo. Hansen confirmed last night on Getting Grilled with Marshy that they had to reassess the selections once he was injured. DMac was also their 3rd halfback cover for the RWC.

kev

@pakman this is a big game (one off) so they will want guys that have been playing, and guys coming back from injury will get there chance if they want to use them later.

voodoo

So, with the team named, what are we expecting with the replacements plan? Assuming no injuries and a close game, what would Hansons ideal plan be?

Taylor for Coles at 60mins
Props🤷‍♂️
Tui for Barrett after 50
Frizell only if necessary
TJ at 65
SBW after 60 for Crotty
Then the interesting one is BS. Does he go to FB and BB to Wing? Seems a waste of BB. But bringing BS onto the wing for 20 seems a bit pointless unless SR or GB is having a shocker. Or do they move RM to wing and BB to 10 to accommodate BS at 15? Or is BS really only seen as cover rather than impact in this side?

pakman

@voodoo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

So, with the team named, what are we expecting with the replacements plan? Assuming no injuries and a close game, what would Hansons ideal plan be?

Taylor for Coles at 60mins

Props🤷‍♂️

Tui for Barrett after 50

Frizell only if necessary

TJ at 65

SBW after 60 for Crotty

Then the interesting one is BS. Does he go to FB and BB to Wing? Seems a waste of BB. But bringing BS onto the wing for 20 seems a bit pointless unless SR or GB is having a shocker. Or do they move RM to wing and BB to 10 to accommodate BS at 15? Or is BS really only seen as cover rather than impact in this side?

Good point. Bender for Reece is losing X factor, but gaining aerially.

If Bridge hurt who goes to 11?

Bovidae

@pakman said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

If Bridge hurt who goes to 11?

Reece. That's where he plays for Waikato. BFA would play on the right wing.

ACT Crusader

@Bovidae said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

Compared to the AB team that played SA in Wellington only 5 starters remain (Moody, Whitelock, Read, Mo’unga and B Barrett). 16 players in the 23. A different picture for the Boks.

And all of you fools were doubting the dry powder....

ACT Crusader

@voodoo Beauden Barrett going to wing isn’t a waste and is not unprecedented. But I think Ben is insurance but will provide good spark for 15-20.

mofitzy_

Cautiously optimistic for this, I can see it being a high scoring game.

booboo

@pakman said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@booboo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

Well ... not my pick 11, 12, 13, 14 ... but still good. Yes, still good.

Would have gone Pat T to start. But see the rationale.

Trouble for my preferred wingers is they both play 11.

Ball players not line smashers at 12, 13.

Can't at least one of Bridge/Ioane play 14?

Yeah. Well its only wing. I'd a thunk.

rotated

I guess Ioane’s mistake was having only a minor injury and coming back too quickly. Should have taken half the season (or most of the last year) off and gone straight in the 23 like Crotty and SBW.

Much would have preferred our strongest midfield of ALB-Goodhue.

mofitzy_

Ioane will have a few chances to play himself back into form and confidence in pool games.

rotated

@mofitzy_ said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

Ioane will have a few chances to play himself back into form and confidence in pool games.

And unfortunately Reece has a big opportunity to have a howler too.

ACT Crusader

@Bovidae said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@taniwharugby said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

Makes you wonder what our backline would have been like if DMac hadn't gotten injured...his injury opened the door for Mounga

DMac's introduction was the start of the dual playmaker gameplan so I think they would have persevered with that combo. Hansen confirmed last night on Getting Grilled with Marshy that they had to reassess the selections once he was injured. DMac was also their 3rd halfback cover for the RWC.

I agree.

I think we would’ve seen

10-Barrett
15-McKenzie
22-Mo’unga

Bones

Taylor around 50ish
Props around 65ish
Barrett around 70
Frizell 60ish
Perenara 60ish
SBW and Smith 65ish

ACT Crusader

@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool :

Taylor around 50ish
Props around 65ish
Barrett around 70
Frizell 60ish
Perenara 60ish
SBW and Smith 65ish

Agree with all of those except Frizell. I reckon he gets 10 at the most.

Bones

@ACT-Crusader yeah, well, you can go stand in the Chris corner when SF proves everyone wrong!

ACT Crusader

....but what a 10 it will be

The Silver Fern

RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)