Bledisloe #1
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe #1:
@Chester-Draws said in Bledisloe #1:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #1:
Ah the Fern, two posters arguing and neither know what each other’s point is. Gold.
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I liked your comment. I'm not arguing now. I really don't know what his point to argue.
I think our current form is shit. Which is because we are shit. Which means we will likely enter the Cup still shit.
I don't think previous years is much guide. How we are playing now is a much better guide.
It's really very straightforward. We've played shit prior to other world cups and won them. We've also played really well prior to a world cup and been handed our arse. Using prior form as a guide would also have written us off in 87 and 95. Now, again, what was your original point?
What are you on? We played no prior matches in 1987 to have any form. The previous year's tour of France went OK enough, considering the dislocations of that year. In 1995 we only played Canada that year, and we fielded a fresh young side. We went in with very little by way of real form.
Using prior form in 1991 would have indicated that we were on the slide. Which we were, that time, as it happened.
So prior form has proved to be a very poor guide to our RWC form. Nor anyone else's really, for that matter.
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@Chester-Draws said in Bledisloe #1:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe #1:
@Chester-Draws said in Bledisloe #1:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #1:
Ah the Fern, two posters arguing and neither know what each other’s point is. Gold.
Put it on the homepage banner
I liked your comment. I'm not arguing now. I really don't know what his point to argue.
I think our current form is shit. Which is because we are shit. Which means we will likely enter the Cup still shit.
I don't think previous years is much guide. How we are playing now is a much better guide.
It's really very straightforward. We've played shit prior to other world cups and won them. We've also played really well prior to a world cup and been handed our arse. Using prior form as a guide would also have written us off in 87 and 95. Now, again, what was your original point?
What are you on? We played no prior matches in 1987 to have any form. The previous year's tour of France went OK enough, considering the dislocations of that year. In 1995 we only played Canada that year, and we fielded a fresh young side. We went in with very little by way of real form.
Using prior form in 1991 would have indicated that we were on the slide. Which we were, that time, as it happened.
So prior form has proved to be a very poor guide to our RWC form. Nor anyone else's really, for that matter.
My entire bloody point is that form prior to the RWC is a pretty shitty gauge of how the ABs will perform in the actual RWC. That applies not just for us but pretty much every major nation. I've made that clear multiple times. Now for the umpteenth time, what is your point?
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #1:
Ah the Fern, two posters arguing and neither know what each other’s point is. Gold.
Put it on the homepage banner
They are still at it 😀
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@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe #1:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #1:
Ah the Fern, two posters arguing and neither know what each other’s point is. Gold.
Put it on the homepage banner
They are still at it 😀
Don't blame me. I simply said that previous form is a poor indicator of RWC success. He's arguing that I'm wrong and that previous form is a poor indicator of RWC success. I think. Actually I have no fooking idea.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe #1:
Actually I have no fooking idea.
It doesn't matter. Nobody has a clue what is going on but stick to your guns, never back down, argue your side of an argument that doesn't exist. It's just the way it is done here.
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@Snowy said in Bledisloe #1:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe #1:
Actually I have no fooking idea.
It doesn't matter. Nobody has a clue what is going on but stick to your guns, never back down, argue your side of an argument that doesn't exist. It's just the way it is done here.
And lovin’ it.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #1:
@Snowy said in Bledisloe #1:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe #1:
Actually I have no fooking idea.
It doesn't matter. Nobody has a clue what is going on but stick to your guns, never back down, argue your side of an argument that doesn't exist. It's just the way it is done here.
And lovin’ it.
Pass the salt.
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Good analysis again
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Last 20 rewatch. Was our worst period:
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Big gaps close to rucks, esp. for Koroibete try, after Tupou twice made good ground.
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ABs passing to no one -- Patty T after SW takes kick off at 33-19, Taylor after great Savea break from 22 -- and Patty T drop in contact.
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Poor kicks gifting possession -- Laumape grubber, RM kick which Beale ran from goal line and could have led to end to end try but for Read covering.
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More easy metres from pick n go, leading to Hodge's second.
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Moli poor defensive alignment attacked, second time big hole when Beale scored.
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At 40-26 Read taps penalty rather than kicking into Oz 22?
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Moli under pressure at scrum.
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Last try from good scrum on our 10 metre -- Oz momentum wasn't checked (our forwards on wrong side field), leading quickly to final try.
Takeaways:
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Gave away possession by forcing things rather than being patient (5 times!). Treasure the farking pill!
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Defence round ruck abysmal.
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Fast Oz ball meant they several times made 40 metres in a blink, and once five out were clinical.
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@Chris said in Bledisloe #1:
@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD said in Bledisloe #1:
"He simply does not have ..." is clear enough - I'm commenting on his Test performance. In my opinion on Saturday he was not as sure footed and confident.
Ok understand where you are coming from
Don’t agree with this comment
"He simply does not have ..." is clear enough - I'm commenting on his Test performance. In my opinion on Saturday he was not as sure footed and confident.I think he went well considering we had 14 players for the 2nd half and our forwards didn’t really stand up.
Fair enough Chris. I hope Richie Mo'unga makes the the beg step up to permanent Test level. He has had to work at it for a couple of years now, against able contemporaries. He couldn't wish for better coaching in the position - their record down south is exceptional.
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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD yeah it takes time in the saddle at First five I think in 2 years we will be saying how good he is
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On the subject of dry powder ...
... not sure if you guys remember 2011 at all, but it was quite obvious in the early tests that they were testing different tactics.
It's not quite as obvious to me this year, but ...
... how often have we seen the 9 box kicking this year? Not much that I recall. I could be wrong. Bad short term memory. But the lack of box kick after it being the go to for the last few years suggests testing tactics different from normal.
Mind you I'm probably wrong on all sorts of levels ...
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@pakman said in Bledisloe #1:
Last 20 rewatch. Was our worst period:
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Big gaps close to rucks, esp. for Koroibete try, after Tupou twice made good ground.
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ABs passing to no one -- Patty T after SW takes kick off at 33-19, Taylor after great Savea break from 22 -- and Patty T drop in contact.
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Poor kicks gifting possession -- Laumape grubber, RM kick which Beale ran from goal line and could have led to end to end try but for Read covering.
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More easy metres from pick n go, leading to Hodge's second.
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Moli poor defensive alignment attacked, second time big hole when Beale scored.
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At 40-26 Read taps penalty rather than kicking into Oz 22?
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Moli under pressure at scrum.
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Last try from good scrum on our 10 metre -- Oz momentum wasn't checked (our forwards on wrong side field), leading quickly to final try.
Takeaways:
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Gave away possession by forcing things rather than being patient (5 times!). Treasure the farking pill!
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Defence round ruck abysmal.
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Fast Oz ball meant they several times made 40 metres in a blink, and once five out were clinical.
Points two (White) and three (three second ruck speed) covered well in Chalkboard at 26 minute mark of this:
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