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  • Chester DrawsC Online
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    @nzzp said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    It's a split because fo the different seasons, and then all the money is up in the NH. Those four are far and away the poor cousins of Tier 1 international rugby; the ones who get players poached up north, and the ones who historically have been best at the game.

    I think you are thinking wishfully there. England are historically just as strong as Australia -- their record is almost exactly 50/50, and that's with lots more games played in the modern era when Australia have had a couple of good runs.

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    I'm in the camp who worry about the AB team, rather than individual players. They haven't been playing well as a team for a couple of years. Not reliably well, anyhow. And the slope seems downwards rather than upwards.

    Sure we went into the last two RWC campaigns with issues and won. But then again, we went into some of the previous campaigns with similar issues -- that were painfully exposed.

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    My main concern is the bench. It was a weapon. Now it's a worry.

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    That depends on injuries. Right now, I have:

    Coles, Karl, Ofa, Barrett, Ardie, Smith/TJ, Mo’unga, (Probably ALB)

    That’s plenty of experience and talent, good scrummaging, plenty of mobility, perhaps the best player in rugby right now, and at least one other guy who should be starting.

    If any of them get injured though, we get very 2007ish (I’m thinking Brendon Leonard here) very quickly - talented third options that are not experienced at closing out games.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    A break dancing all black coach is the stuff dreams are made of ,

    A 45 year old with a comb-over is not a good look. Hiding his bald patch I'm sure. 🙂

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    @Bovidae said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    A break dancing all black coach is the stuff dreams are made of ,

    A 45 year old with a comb-over is not a good look. Hiding his bald patch I'm sure. 🙂

    Judging by many of his predecessors I don't think Robertsons appearance is anything to worry about given we've had blokes who permanently looked like they were at a funeral ( Wylie, Mains, Henry ) nerdy corporate types ( Hart ) and fat fluffybunnies ( Hansen, Foster )

    Razor will be a breath of fresh air.

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    Doing some head coach talk practise for his resume?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/114141717/all-blacks-ian-foster-backs-steve-hansens-stance-over-sevu-reece-controversy

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    @Machpants he says all the right things...

    I wonder if when they speak to Razor they have a conversation about being assistant to Fozzie (given the track record the last dozen or so years would indicate Fozzie is odds on likely to step up, especially if they win the RWC again)

    WHo else will apply? Who else is available is probably the thing.

    Gats surely cant be given his Lions commitments, Schmidt has ruled himself out...

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    @taniwharugby I like that idea, Razor has had a pretty quick rise, if he gets to "learn the ropes" that seems like a good thing, rather than stepping straight into the helm.

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    @taniwharugby said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    @Machpants he says all the right things...

    I wonder if when they speak to Razor they have a conversation about being assistant to Fozzie (given the track record the last dozen or so years would indicate Fozzie is odds on likely to step up, especially if they win the RWC again)

    WHo else will apply? Who else is available is probably the thing.

    Gats surely cant be given his Lions commitments, Schmidt has ruled himself out...

    Vern Cotter is on a one-year contract with Montpellier, so will be free at the end of the 2019-20 Top 14 season, unless they're prepared to let him go early.

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    @Machpants

    Good on Foster and Hansen for standing up to the outrage mob and permanently offended pearl clutchers

    The irony is alot of these same folks are very big on rehabilitation of those who've transgressed in the past

    Yet when he have a positive case of rehabilitation and yet we have legions of fools wringing their hands

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    I can see a two year coach team set up, as the coach availability will be a lot more then.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12256581

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    @Tim I like that, Brown has seemed to be one following in the footsteps of Wayne from what I've witnessed of his coaching so far.

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    I'd like to toss in a wildcard for consideration for the AB coaching role:

    Pieter de Villiers

    And here's my motivation:

    1. He has coached a team to win a Test in Wellington
    2. He has coached a series win over the British and Irish Lions
    3. Granted he is as daft as a box of frogs - but that just means great media and PR value
    4. With current NZ$ to Rand exchange rates you need only pay him about NZ$20 a month
    5. He is immediately available

    *Disclaimer - the above suggestion in no way implies any endorsement of the candidate suggested.

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    @Billy-Webb said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    I'd like to toss in a wildcard for consideration for the AB coaching role:

    Pieter de Villiers

    Hey if Ian Foster is putting his hand up no name is too daft. Mitch may as well throw his name in the hat again too.

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    @Billy-Webb said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    I'd like to toss in a wildcard for consideration for the AB coaching role:

    Pieter de Villiers

    “I know dancing is also a contact sport, but rugby is far from dancing. If you want to run with the big dogs then sometimes you have to lift your leg”.

    Why don’t we go to the nearest ballet shop, get some tutus and get aa dancing shop going? There will be no eye-gouging, no tackling, no nothing and we will enjoy it

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    @nzzp said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    @Billy-Webb said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    I'd like to toss in a wildcard for consideration for the AB coaching role:

    Pieter de Villiers

    “I know dancing is also a contact sport, but rugby is far from dancing. If you want to run with the big dogs then sometimes you have to lift your leg”.

    Why don’t we go to the nearest ballet shop, get some tutus and get aa dancing shop going? There will be no eye-gouging, no tackling, no nothing and we will enjoy it

    Siviwe Breakfast  /  May 2, 2019

    Peter de Villiers: Reliving his most epic quotes

    Peter de Villiers: Reliving his most epic quotes

    Peter de Villiers has thrown his weight behind Patricia de Lille's presidential campaign, and we reckon a role as party spokesperson would be perfect.

    Excellent, sensible policies for a happier All Blacks

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    @rotated

    De Villiers might get a bad press but he's a good coach & his resume is far Superior to most coaches in Int'l Rugby

    Bear in mind he was a Junior Boks coach who bought through a bunch of players that won RWC in 2007, beat Lions in 2009 etc

    I can't think of any coaches in recent history who've beaten ABs 3 times yet alone 3 times in a calendar year

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    @Jaguares4real said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    I can't think of any coaches in recent history who've beaten ABs 3 times yet alone 3 times in a calendar year

    Fark, I hated that in 2009. We just got monstered; Bakkies and Matfield were all over us. Was at the Tron when we got beaten up, and Steyn kicked a couple of 60 m penalties. Was just incredible, and they deserved it.

    Then we got revenge the next year, and it was so sweet. That Eden Park rematch was an absolute grudge match; ABs were fired up, and no one knew how it would play out. Possibly the catalyst for the 2011 win, with the 'bomb squad' forming and getting really good

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