QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs
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@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
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I disagree with your POV re level of Jaguares performance
They've played better vs Canes Sharks twice Waratahs Sunwolves
With ball in hand Jaguares were average
WITHOUT the ball Jaguares were phenomenal
Here I;d agree with & state that was their best performance of the season Chiefs only scored 1 try in the game and that was in dubious circumstances
This was well below their average of 4 tries per game (63 total)
Jaguares were belting dudes in defence They had an ability to step up their intensity to a level the Chiefs could not handle No shame in that for the Chiefs
I've got a thick skin I can take it as much as I can give it
But I'm on a Kiwi forum so when it comes to arrogance in rugby I'd though I go native: You know when in Rome.........
What an outstanding post, every word an insightful gem. . .
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@Hooroo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
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Sam Cane said:
"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."
"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."
"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."
So brumbies next and the. Crusaders. Can you beat both of them with your test team?
I knew we would get this stage with the Phil Kearns narrative coming from a Kiwi poster
It's a sign of Jaguares success rattling some cages & potential of a Frankenstein monster emerging & becoming a potential powerhouse in Super Rugby
Real Reason why Kearns was such a
was that Jaguares dusted up his beloved Waratahs team +Jaguares in their last 24 regular season games have beaten
Sharks three times Bulls three times Stormers twice
Blues twice Hurricanes Chiefs
Brumbies twice Rebels Waratahs Reds Sunwolves
I mean that's only a 75% winning record
Only Hurricanes & Crusaders have won more than the 20 victories the Jaguares have collected in last 2 season (32 matches)
These are spectacular numbers
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@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Hooroo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
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Sam Cane said:
"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."
"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."
"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."
So brumbies next and the. Crusaders. Can you beat both of them with your test team?
I knew we would get this stage with the Phil Kearns narrative coming from a Kiwi poster
It's a sign of Jaguares success rattling some cages & potential of a Frankenstein monster emerging & becoming a potential powerhouse in Super Rugby
Real Reason why Kearns was such a
was that Jaguares dusted up his beloved Waratahs team +Jaguares in their last 24 regular season games have beaten
Sharks three times Bulls three times Stormers twice
Blues twice Hurricanes Chiefs
Brumbies twice Rebels Waratahs Reds Sunwolves
I mean that's only a 75% winning record
Only Hurricanes & Crusaders have won more than the 20 victories the Jaguares have collected in last 2 season (32 matches)
These are spectacular numbers
Dude. What are the eyes emoticon signifying? Over my head
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@Jaguares4real
Crusaders have 16 All Blacks in matchday 23
Hurricanes have 13 ABs
Chiefs have 11 ABs
Bulls have 12 Springboks in their 23
Stormers have 12 Boks in their 23
Sharks have 14 Boks in their 23
Brumbies have 14 have Wallabies in their 23
Waratahs have 15 Wallabies in their 23
Rebels have 15 Wallabies in their 23
Kick ALL these team out of Super Rugby
Maybe you now when someone say
JaGuArEs ArE aN iTeRnAtIoNaL tEaM
They're talking out of their backside/misinformed
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We have 11 ABs? Jesus
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@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
We have 11 ABs? Jesus
Off the top of my head ...
Moli
Hames
Harris
Ta'avao
Laulala
Retallick
Cane
TTT
ALB
DMac
...Yep, you need to fill me in.
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@booboo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
We have 11 ABs? Jesus
Off the top of my head ...
Moli
Hames
Harris
Ta'avao
Laulala
Retallick
Cane
TTT
ALB
DMac
...Yep, you need to fill me in.
Oh yeah.
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@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
We have 11 ABs? Jesus
No BS
It's also an indicator that just using how many players have been capped internationally is a TERRIBLE metric to use to indicate quality of players
Especially with smaller nations like Argentina & Scotland who combined have 3 professional sides
Hence they'll have a higher % of players who've played for Scotland or Argentina as they have a smaller player pool to choose from
Finally Argentina have a 2nd team called Argentina XV
They played in a tournament in Uruguay this month - conceded 48 points in losing to Russia and got dusted up by Uruguay
These games were International test matches btw so players would've been capped
Finally bear in Mind Argentina were playing Int'l rugby regularly in the Rugby Championship FOUR years before they starting playing Super Rugby
Plus the game over there is entirely amateur - No Mitre 10, Currie Cup, Shute Shueld/NRC
Hence their U20 side Pumitas are a big development tool for ARG rugby and that's been going very well recently
Number of players have graduated from U20 to Jaguares in last 2 years
and this will increase over next 2 yearsPlus there'll be a Pampas XV playing Currie Cup every year starting in July
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Riiiiight so you're stretching a bit there.
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@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Hooroo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
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Sam Cane said:
"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."
"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."
"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."
So brumbies next and the. Crusaders. Can you beat both of them with your test team?
I knew we would get this stage with the Phil Kearns narrative coming from a Kiwi poster
It's a sign of Jaguares success rattling some cages & potential of a Frankenstein monster emerging & becoming a potential powerhouse in Super Rugby
Real Reason why Kearns was such a
was that Jaguares dusted up his beloved Waratahs team +Jaguares in their last 24 regular season games have beaten
Sharks three times Bulls three times Stormers twice
Blues twice Hurricanes Chiefs
Brumbies twice Rebels Waratahs Reds Sunwolves
I mean that's only a 75% winning record
Only Hurricanes & Crusaders have won more than the 20 victories the Jaguares have collected in last 2 season (32 matches)
These are spectacular numbers
Im still struggling to see what the fuck your point is.
The jags won lots of games this season? No shit, that is how they won their conference. Is someone claiming they didn’t win these games?
You are deluded if you think your team is unbeatable on any given day. The 75% win percentage kind of proves that.
Your claim about them rattling cages and being a super rugby powerhouse is laughable. They might even win the comp this year and it would still be laughable.
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@pukunui said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Hooroo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
Posted without Comment:
Sam Cane said:
"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."
"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."
"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."
So brumbies next and the. Crusaders. Can you beat both of them with your test team?
I knew we would get this stage with the Phil Kearns narrative coming from a Kiwi poster
It's a sign of Jaguares success rattling some cages & potential of a Frankenstein monster emerging & becoming a potential powerhouse in Super Rugby
Real Reason why Kearns was such a
was that Jaguares dusted up his beloved Waratahs team +Jaguares in their last 24 regular season games have beaten
Sharks three times Bulls three times Stormers twice
Blues twice Hurricanes Chiefs
Brumbies twice Rebels Waratahs Reds Sunwolves
I mean that's only a 75% winning record
Only Hurricanes & Crusaders have won more than the 20 victories the Jaguares have collected in last 2 season (32 matches)
These are spectacular numbers
Im still struggling to see what the fuck your point is.
The jags won lots of games this season? No shit, that is how they won their conference. Is someone claiming they didn’t win these games?
You are deluded if you think your team is unbeatable on any given day. The 75% win percentage kind of proves that.
Your claim about them rattling cages and being a super rugby powerhouse is laughable. They might even win the comp this year and it would still be laughable.
Am wondering who is upset by the Hawaray's success?
Sure us Chiefs supporters, and many Whichever-NZ-team-is-playing supporters wanted the Chiefs to win, but not sure anyone is resenting the Jagularee's success ...
... methinks J4L is attempting to create some angst that isn't there.
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@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
Riiiiight so you're stretching a bit there.
Basically we have three - BBBR, ALB and Cane plus DMac if he wasn't out for the season.
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@Nepia said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
Riiiiight so you're stretching a bit there.
Basically we have three - BBBR, ALB and Cane plus DMac if he wasn't out for the season.
Can't be playing that game
You're a capped International whether you've played 1 test match or 100 test matches
Unless your're willing to admit using Test matches as a metric of ability & quality is a crude and simplistic measure
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@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Nepia said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
Riiiiight so you're stretching a bit there.
Basically we have three - BBBR, ALB and Cane plus DMac if he wasn't out for the season.
Can't be playing that game
You're a capped International whether you've played 1 test match or 100 test matches
Unless your're willing to admit using Test matches as a metric of ability & quality is a crude and simplistic measure
Yes Moli is exactly the same as Cane - TBH, I can't be arsed with your trolling, I'm out.
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@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:
@Jaguares4real
Crusaders have 16 All Blacks in matchday 23
Only 16? Not if I were an AB selector
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