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    @cgrant I've been happy with Armstrong this year. Great workrate and has scrummaged well for us, even when Toomaga Allen has been getting shafted on the other side. I think long term Numia is the man though.

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    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby News:

    Matching up the Crusaders vs Canes XV's next year and you have one ding dong battle, shame we can't get Lomax for the playoffs this year: this is also assuming Beaudy takes a sabbatical.

    1. Moody > Armstrong
    2. Taylor 'EVEN' Coles
    3. Ala'alatoa < Lomax
    4. Barrett > Scrafton
    5. Strange 'EVEN' Walker Leawere
    6. Blackadder < Fifita
    7. Harmon < Savea
    8. Douglas < Evans
    9. Hall < Perenara
    10. Mo'unga > Garden-Bachop Anyone but please. Were him and TJ Va'a the only options available for consideration?
    11. Bridge > Lam
    12. Goodhue > Laumape
    13. Ennor 'EVEN' Aso
    14. Reece 'EVEN' Goosen
    15. Havili < Barrett
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    Bouncing around the house at the prospect of Tyrell Lomax joining the Canes next year.

    Now we need Beauden and Jordie to sign on for next year.

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    @Higgins I don't mind Garden Bachop, he has looked better than F Smith and Marshall at 10. I'd like to see McClutchie there but I don't think he will be ready by next year.

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    replied to sparky on last edited by Canes4life
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    @sparky Jordie should be a lock in but I think Beaudy will take a sabbatical.

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    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby News:

    @Higgins I don't mind Garden Bachop, he has looked better than F Smith and Marshall at 10. I'd like to see McClutchie there but I don't think he will be ready by next year.

    Using the "readiness" criteria that would count out Garden-Bachop at first five for life

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    replied to Higgins on last edited by Canes4life
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    @Higgins haha not a fan? I thought he was good for Wellington this year. Fletcher Smith has been poor from the minutes he's played and Marshall was crap in that loss to the Jaguares. Don't have too many options really so hopefully Beaudy re-signs and plays Super.

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    @Canes4life IMO Garden-Bachop is the worst of the four. The Canes are in deep shit if BB is unavailable next season, unless they find a good 10 somewhere (Marshall hasn't re-signed yet, either).

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by Canes4life
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    @Stargazer I wouldn't say deep shit but losing Beaudy isn't ideal. I disagree, Fletcher Smith has been god damn aweful in his appearances so far this year. He has a weak boot aswell. Garden-Bachop is second for me and didn't really get much opportunity to show his wares before injury struck. The one time he came off the bench he set up a try against the Crusaders, more than both Marshall and Smith have done.

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    @cgrant said in Super Rugby News:

    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby News:

    Matching up the Crusaders vs Canes XV's next year and you have one ding dong battle, shame we can't get Lomax for the playoffs this year: this is also assuming Beaudy takes a sabbatical.

    1. Moody > Armstrong
    2. Taylor 'EVEN' Coles
    3. Ala'alatoa < Lomax
    4. Barrett > Scrafton
    5. Strange 'EVEN' Walker Leawere
    6. Blackadder < Fifita
    7. Harmon < Savea
    8. Douglas < Evans
    9. Hall < Perenara
    10. Mo'unga > Garden-Bachop
    11. Bridge > Lam
    12. Goodhue > Laumape
    13. Ennor 'EVEN' Aso
    14. Reece 'EVEN' Goosen
    15. Havili < Barrett

    Havili < Barrett is questionable.
    Not sure about Armstrong to be the starting LHP. I would opt for Toby Smith.

    I would think Jordan will get a lot more minutes at full back next year

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    @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

    Great pickup for the Canes,Highlanders look in trouble for next year losing a lot of players.

    Highlanders are getting gutted in 2020

    "Liam Squire, Luke Whitelock, Jackson Hemopo, Elliot Dixon, Waisake Naholo, Ben Smith, Marty Banks, Tom Franklin, Matt Faddes and Richard Buckman & Tyrell Lomax"

    That's half their match day 23 leaving end of the year

    Landers will likely go back to being the whipping boys of NZ rugby

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    @Jaguares4real but I bet you they will still play with a ton of heart regardless of who wears the jersey...only real major is going to be the quality of their depth if they have injuries.

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    replied to E African Troll on last edited by Bones
    #4682

    @Jaguares4real whaaaaat... Where's Hemopo off to?

    Edit... Oh. Japan I see 😔

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    @Jaguares4real said in Super Rugby News:

    @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

    Great pickup for the Canes,Highlanders look in trouble for next year losing a lot of players.

    Highlanders are getting gutted in 2020

    "Liam Squire, Luke Whitelock, Jackson Hemopo, Elliot Dixon, Waisake Naholo, Ben Smith, Marty Banks, Tom Franklin, Matt Faddes and Richard Buckman & Tyrell Lomax"

    That's half their match day 23 leaving end of the year

    Landers will likely go back to being the whipping boys of NZ rugby

    They'll have a young, inexperienced squad, but with plenty of talent. It will be a rebuild year, possibly with many losses and lessons, but I think they'll have a few good surprises in store, too, for teams that underestimate them.

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    @Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby News:

    @Jaguares4real but I bet you they will still play with a ton of heart regardless of who wears the jersey...only real major is going to be the quality of their depth if they have injuries.

    You just don't know, though. Auckland fell off a cliff when senior players disappeared... It's too hard to tell what's going to happen

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Chris B.
    #4685

    Just done a quick exercise of predicting all the results of the remaining games, to see what the final table could look like. Main conclusion is that 38 points should be enough - 37 could be. 36 probably won't be.

    For what it's worth (sod all), my working and predictions:

    Crusaders 53+5=58
    Jaguares 41+4+5=50
    Brumbies 39+4+4=47
    Canes 44+1+4=49
    Sharks 33+1+4=38
    Lions 35+4+4=43
    Rebels 34+0+0=34
    Highlanders 29+4+4=37
    Stormers 30+5+1=36
    Bulls 34+1+1 =36
    Blues 28+4+1= 33
    Tahs 30+1+1=32
    Chiefs 31+5=36

    Canes and Chiefs can potentially do the Highlanders a favour by knocking over the Sharks, Lions and especially the Rebels.

    Not a lot of margin for error in the middle of the table.

    EDIT: And after correcting some errors from that round, 36 points may be enough - for some teams anyway.

    I've also decided that the Rebels aren't beating the Chiefs! 🙂

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    #4686

    @Chris-B sheesh you're predicting the Canes to only get 1 point out of South Africa with the quality of players returning. I think they win atleast one, if not two of those games, before coming home and making a statement against the Blues. I think they will end up on 49.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
    #4687

    @Canes4life Yeah - it's a bit pessimistic of me on behalf of the Canes. 🙂

    However, it's pretty tough in Jaapieland this year and I don't think the Sharks and the Lions are the worst teams in that conference (that's the Bulls IMO).

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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
    #4688

    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby News:

    @Chris-B sheesh you're predicting the Canes to only get 1 point out of South Africa with the quality of players returning. I think they win atleast one, if not two of those games, before coming home and making a statement against the Blues. I think they will end up on 49.

    I'm hoping the statement is
    "we don't need to win this, and our b side sucks"

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #4689

    And this just happened, too! Couldn't watch the game, but the Jaguares are doing all they need to do to top their conference.

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