Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
Me neither, it's a public service when these sorts of people identify themselves as bigots. Not comfortable with restricting free speech at all, even stupid drivel like this.
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
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@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/here sexual orientation or gender identity.
He made similar comments 12 months ago and didn't retract them so what difference does it make now? Tbh I think young PI kids in that situation have more important things to worry about than what Folau says.
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have to assume Maria shares similar views as him, has she aired these?
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@taniwharugby said in Aussie Rugby in general:
have to assume Maria shares similar views as him, has she aired these?
Certainly has.
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@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
I'm not, no. However if Joe Karam had come out and said something similar when I was younger I would have thought the same thing.
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@sparky said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Folau's social media posts are clearly in breech of Rugby Australia and World Rugby's codes of conduct.
Are they clearly? While we can clearly extrapolate his beliefs I'm not sure they in themselves are prima facie a breach of any reasonable code of conduct.
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'm not, no. However if Joe Karam had come out and said something similar when I was younger I would have thought the same thing.
I grew up while Michael Jones was a top All Black, I did not feel like a sinner for playing rugby on Sundays.
edit: This is obviously a facetious statement but I think we do minorities of all types (including young homosexuals) by trying to ostracize our society into a place where there is absolutely no ignorant or prejudiced opinions. They should not be welcomed or celebrated, but trying to run every person out of town who has an opinion that is one standard deviation outside the mainstream.
I think you also do minorities a disservice thinking that they can't tolerate someone holding (misguided) opinions and values they may not share.
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AR Inclusion Policy
1.6 "There is no place for homophobia or any form of
discrimination in our game and our actions and words both on and off the field must
reflect this."1.7" as the governing body of Rugby Union
in Australia, to make a stand to eradicate discrimination in all forms, including
harassment and bullying toward gay, lesbian and bisexual people, individually and
collectively with other sports codes."4.4 "Rugby AU is committed to doing more to positively promote a culture of respect and
inclusion for gay, lesbian and bisexual participants, rather than just challenging
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
I'm not, no. However if Joe Karam had come out and said something similar when I was younger I would have thought the same thing.
I was just waiting for a post like this
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Israel needs to get his own act together....
Jesus said, I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
....so repent, you overpaid fucker - and give me all your money to save yourself.
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby in general:
AR Inclusion Policy
1.6 "There is no place for homophobia or any form of
discrimination in our game and our actions and words both on and off the field must
reflect this."1.7" as the governing body of Rugby Union
in Australia, to make a stand to eradicate discrimination in all forms, including
harassment and bullying toward gay, lesbian and bisexual people, individually and
collectively with other sports codes."4.4 "Rugby AU is committed to doing more to positively promote a culture of respect and
inclusion for gay, lesbian and bisexual participants, rather than just challenging
negative behaviours like homophobia"If that's their policy then they should never have signed him.
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Folau’s twitter feed has a lot of guys kissing each other in it at the moment
Which is the right approach IMO. Loud condemnation and much mockery.
That will help vulnerable people more than banning his right to have an unpopular opinion. Let them see his opinions are in the minority these days.
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@rotated said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'm not, no. However if Joe Karam had come out and said something similar when I was younger I would have thought the same thing.
I grew up while Michael Jones was a top All Black, I did not feel like a sinner for playing rugby on Sundays.
edit: This is obviously a facetious statement but I think we do minorities of all types (including young homosexuals) by trying to ostracize our society into a place where there is absolutely no ignorant or prejudiced opinions. They should not be welcomed or celebrated, but trying to run every person out of town who has an opinion that is one standard deviation outside the mainstream.
I think you also do minorities a disservice thinking that they can't tolerate someone holding (misguided) opinions and values they may not share.
I remember MJ said he loved God more than his wife when she was sitting right next to him on an interview many years ago. I found that somewhat odd.
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@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
Neither are you .
I’d imagine the overwhelming negative reaction to his comments probably means a fair bit to them too.
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@Chris-B said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I bet Folau is Brian Tamakis favourite Rugby player ever.
Brian is tithing himself all the way into the depths of hell.
But, I can save him as well!
blessed are the samaritans
