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    This is an interesting read, and relevant. Saw it on sportsfreak

    not finished it yet, but here is it is:

    Nov 14, 2018  /  Sport

    Ben Ryan: ‘If rugby were a company people would be comparing it to an Enron’

    Ben Ryan: ‘If rugby were a company people would be comparing it to an Enron’

    Fiji’s gold-medal winning sevens coach tells Robert Kitson he is unhappy with the direction he believes the game is moving in – from the treatment of tier-two nations to laws being overlooked by referees

    Sportsfreak:
    (https://www.sportsfreak.co.nz/a-solution-looking-for-a-problem/)

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    @nzzp said in World League Rugby:

    This is an interesting read, and relevant. Saw it on sportsfreak
    not finished it yet, but here is it is:

    Nov 14, 2018  /  Sport

    Ben Ryan: ‘If rugby were a company people would be comparing it to an Enron’

    Ben Ryan: ‘If rugby were a company people would be comparing it to an Enron’

    Fiji’s gold-medal winning sevens coach tells Robert Kitson he is unhappy with the direction he believes the game is moving in – from the treatment of tier-two nations to laws being overlooked by referees

    Ben Ryan. Guardian.
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    @rotated said in World League Rugby:

    @Nepia said in World League Rugby:

    @rotated You seem to be the only one who is looking at this positively - what are your reasons?

    Even if the ABs make the semi-finals and final they will play 1 test less than their current non-RWC year schedule. >

    In one of the reports they said that there would probably be a second Bledisloe test; so if that happens, the number of tests will be the same.

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    The Island Unions are corrupt to the point of already doing what the World League is proposing to do to them.

    If this was to go ahead we would see more PI players heading to league. Tonga is certainly already headed that way.

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    @raznomore Fiji is doing pretty well, I think?

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    @Stargazer I think Fiji has been one of the better administered PI unions. Perhaps due to the influence (and their success) of 7's?? Samoa has had a torrid time, as has Tonga. Really sucks how badly that has effected their players and the flow on for tapping into their full pool of talent for internationals fixtures.

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    @raznomore said in World League Rugby:

    The Island Unions are corrupt to the point of already doing what the World League is proposing to do to them.

    If this was to go ahead we would see more PI players heading to league. Tonga is certainly already headed that way.

    This, its not like they are going to suddenly get their shit together if they become part of this.

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    Apparently, other tier 2/3 nations are not invited ... still not getting the message.

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    At the end of the day you have to have promotion/relegation to ensure you have the top 12 nations. Having USA/Japan guaranteed does not mean they will instantly become competitive. If the US want access to broadcasting money then they need to do the hard yards and qualify for the top 12 IMO. Would having only 1 team promote/relegate be more palpable to Scotland and Italy?

    World Rugby should be the ones dictating the competition and selling it to the broadcasters, not the broadcaster dictating World Rugby.

    I also believe having the tier 2 world league being broadcast and promoted could only benefit those countries.

    Ideally a platform like Kayo here in Aus where you simply pay $25 a month (Can be shared by 2 people) giving you access to all rugby streamed to any device is the way forward.

    Also the length of the broadcast deal is ridiculous, so much can change in that time. I really believe technology will change the way we digest sport.

    What they are doing with VR in the NFL is surely just the start and as that technology improves it will become a very immersive experience.

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    @chimoaus What I would like from a broadcaster (apart from NZ levels of rugby camera/ director or Aust cricket) is the ability to chose my own camera and commentary team. I appreciate the BW considerations, but it's my wish list.

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    The ironic thing in this whole scenario is how much the local media has gone into overdrive about the snub of the Pacific Islands (with the usual array of Taffs going into overdrive about poaching etc), and how little they have said about the emerging nations on their own doorstep (Georgia etc).

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    It's an amazing reach for a single Herald article, which was (like most of these things) just some possibilities reported as certainties. Does show that WR would do better if it was totally open about it's discussions, rather than doing everything behind closed doors whilst the people that really count (the public that care about rugby) are supposed to wait like children for their masters decisions.

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    @Machpants said in World League Rugby:

    It's an amazing reach for a single Herald article, which was (like most of these things) just some possibilities reported as certainties. Does show that WR would do better if it was totally open about it's discussions, rather than doing everything behind closed doors whilst the people that really count (the public that care about rugby) are supposed to wait like children for their masters decisions.

    Easier said than done when you're canvasing opinions, presenting options and collating feedback from so many stakeholders. They're elected to manage this sport so we basically have to accept it and then bitch at the outcomes. 🤣

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    @Machpants said in World League Rugby:

    It's an amazing reach for a single Herald article, which was (like most of these things) just some possibilities reported as certainties. Does show that WR would do better if it was totally open about it's discussions, rather than doing everything behind closed doors whilst the people that really count (the public that care about rugby) are supposed to wait like children for their masters decisions.

    Yes, the ironic thing is that the Walrus initial response was how out of touch the NZ herald is as the time wrote about this 6 months ago. Aside from how poor form I think it is to publicly denounce a competitor rag, the fact that nothing kicked off from their article, suggests that the NZ herald's reach / influence is larger than the Times ... Don't think I would be in a hurry to promote that.

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    @antipodean said in World League Rugby:

    @chimoaus What I would like from a broadcaster (apart from NZ levels of rugby camera/ director or Aust cricket) is the ability to chose my own camera and commentary team. I appreciate the BW considerations, but it's my wish list.

    I have no doubt we will become the directors of our own entertainment once the platform and technology is available. The option to choose commentary would be great as I much prefer the NZ Commentary to the Australian one.

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    Statement from the President of the Georgian Rugby Union.

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    @Stargazer "If I see that fluffybunny Gosper, I will use him as a Lelos ball, then eat him"

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    It appears to be a giant fuck up doesn't it.

    Can't say I have heard any sort of alternative that makes this concept work without impacting something negatively.

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    @chimoaus yeah how the fuck is the head of Georgian rugby getting his information about the massive huge effecting the entire rugby world deal, from the fucking herald? 'world' rugby, my arse

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    @Machpants said in World League Rugby:

    It's an amazing reach for a single Herald article, which was (like most of these things) just some possibilities reported as certainties.

    If the report wasn’t true, then there would be firm and insistent denials, but there aren’t any.

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