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    @Chris-B

    Did you read the article? It suggests Retallick is likely to only go for one or two years.

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    @Chester-Draws said in Exodus 2019:

    @Chris-B

    Did you read the article? It suggests Retallick is likely to only go for one or two years.

    he'll come back heavy, worn out, and a bit shit.

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    @Chris-B said in Exodus 2019:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/110382024/all-blacks-prop-owen-franks-chooses-northampton-over-toulon-report

    Owen Franks reportedly going to Northampton.

    We're going to be hurt after this RWC - quite badly if we lose people like Retallick.

    I've been of the opinion for a while that Rettalick and Read are the difference makers in our pack (Whitelock to a slightly lesser extent), and if one, or god help us both, of those guys are a bit off, we drop back in quality a bit. If this is true we face the possibility of having neither even playing any more, then we are suddenly nothing more than a decent international pack.

    A pretty good front row stock; as it stands now nothing in the 2nd row; and a collection of pretty underwhelming loose forwards and maybe Sam Cane.

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    Owen Franks to Northampton Saints makes sense. Ben Franks is there. Club with lots of Kiwi connections. After a decade in Black, it is a guess of thank you and good luck. I hope Northampton's weights room is open on Christmas Day and they have a large supply of protein shakes.

    Sale Sharks have been trying to sign a world-class lock for a while. They missed out on Joe Launchbury and Francisco Mostert last year. They have money to spend.

    If the NZRU board get outbid on Brodie Retallick it says to me they no longer have ambition for the All Blacks to be best in the world. Lurch is the best forward in the world and a once in a generation Lock. Time for the NZRU to make him a reward he can't refuse

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    @sparky said in Exodus 2019:

    Owen Franks to Northampton Saints makes sense. Ben Franks is there. Club with lots of Kiwi connections. After a decade in Black, it is a guess of thank you and good luck. I hope Northampton's weights room is open on Christmas Day and they have a large supply of protein shakes.

    Sale Sharks have been trying to sign a world-class lock for a while. They missed out on Joe Lauchbury and Francisco Mosert last year. They have money to spend.

    If the NZRU board get outbid on Brodie Retallick it says to me they no longer have ambition for the All Blacks to be best in the world. Lurch is the best player in the world and a once in a generation Lock. Time for the NZRU to make him a reward he can't refuse

    They have to make him one of the highest one or few ABs I reckon. If they did that at least they've given it a good shot

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    I remember Colin Meads' funeral when Stan Meads said he and Pinetree thought Brodie Retallick was the best Lock New Zealand had produced in more than 40 years. No higher endorsement to my mind. Time to offer Lurch the sort money McCaw or Carter were on.

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    #307

    They'll have some coin freed up with Read and Frank's departing.

    Sometimes it ain't all about the money....

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    @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

    They'll have some coin freed up with Read and Frank's departing.

    Sometimes it ain't all about the money...🤣

    I thought Read was interested in staying? Either way they probably don't have to match the NH offers. But a strong offer is required

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    @canefan Nah read has said he's off, was originally France but apparently leaning to Japan

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    I think a one year sabbatical with a big NZ contract on return is more likely, as little as I like it.

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    #311

    Brodie has said in his Instagram story today that he isn't going to Sale.

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    Screenshot of Brodie's insta:

    03885dd0-ec5f-4218-be3c-503e4289bc65-image.png

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    BBBR is in the position of not only having achieved AB status, he is cementing a place as an all time AB great. Hopefully the NZRU can see that if they want to dangle that challenge (of being an AB great) in front of others they need to make sure it happens for those that reach those heights.

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    @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

    Screenshot of Brodie's insta:

    03885dd0-ec5f-4218-be3c-503e4289bc65-image.png

    "know off"....."after david"

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    Always knew Brodie wouldnt offer himself to the highest bidder.

    In other words not for sale.

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    @Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2019:

    Always knew Brodie wouldnt offer himself to the highest bidder.

    In other words not for sale.

    Just a touch premature this comment!!

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    I suspect Brodie has bigger Rugby dreams than playing in Eccles in front of 6000 people.

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    #318

    Ngani Laumape re-signs with the Hurricanes and NZRU until 2021:

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    wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
    #319

    this should get a few peoples blood pressure up

    Sonny Bill Williams - 'This could be my last year at the Blues'
    Author NZ Herald, SectionRugby, Publish Date Wednesday, 6 February 2019, 10:46AM

    Sonny Bill Williams has given his broadest hint yet that this will be his last year with the Blues and New Zealand Rugby.

    The Blues and All Blacks midfielder, who turns 34 in August, is contracted until after this year's World Cup in Japan, which he will almost certainly attend providing he remains fit due to his experience and ability to unlock opposition defences with his trademark offloads.

    But, given his injury frustrations of the last couple of years, Williams knows more than most about the pitfalls of looking too far ahead.

    Time is running out on his rugby career at the highest level and there is a sense that Williams, who tasted Super Rugby glory with the Chiefs, is targeting this season as his last chance to win a championship at the Blues.

    In an interview with the Herald today, a reflective Williams spoke of his frustrations of last year which was interrupted by wrist, knee and shoulder injuries and limited his output to a handful of games for his franchise and only five tests.

    Sonny Bill Williams at Blues pre-season training. Photo / Photosport
    Sonny Bill Williams at Blues pre-season training. Photo / Photosport
    He suffered an AC joint shoulder injury against England at Twickenham in the All Blacks' penultimate test of the year in November but is now 100 per cent fit and said he would be available for the Blues' opening game of the season against the Crusaders at Eden Park a week on Saturday.

    "For the last two years I've been so methodical with my planning and preparation," he said. "Every off-season: 'A, B, C, D and I'm going to get to E'. But the last two years have been so injury ravaged I've come to understand that I have a plan but that God is the best planner. I put my faith in God and work hard and try to be the best person – husband, father, teammate - that I can be.

    "It starts here with the Blues. I want us to have a successful year. I want the boys to succeed."

    Asked whether this could be his last year at the Blues, he replied: "It could be, bro, it could be.

    "But with age comes a little bit of wisdom. I've had my share of events that have made me the person that I am today.

    "If I did finish at the end of the year, as long as I competed every day and put my best foot forward as a person and a player I'll be happy. Who knows? Like I said, for the last two years I've had big plans."

    Given the injuries Williams has suffered over his high-impact - in all senses - and well-travelled career, a season in Japan or even retirement could follow this year but in the meantime there is a positivity surrounding the Blues in the wake of head coach Leon MacDonald's appointment that hasn't been at the franchise who last made the playoffs in 2011 for a long time.

    Sonny Bill Williams has given his biggest hint about his future with the Blues and NZ Rugby. Photo / Photosport
    Sonny Bill Williams has given his biggest hint about his future with the Blues and NZ Rugby. Photo / Photosport
    That is in part due to the increased depth in the squad – especially in the backline following the arrival of Ma'a Nonu, who played 103 tests for the All Blacks, and No10 Otere Black's return to fitness from a long-term knee injury.

    Williams spoke of the healthy competition for places and insisted both he and Nonu, a former rival for the black No12 jersey, can start in the midfield together.

    The last time the pair played together was during the second half of the 2015 World Cup final against Australia at Twickenham after Williams replaced Conrad Smith at halftime and promptly gifted the offload which sent Nonu off on a near 50m run to the tryline.

    "On and off I've played alongside Skux [Nonu] for close to 10 years, although obviously not the last couple of years," Williams said. "I made my debut for the All Blacks with him [against England at Twickenham in 2010]. We've always had a good friendship. It's no secret that we've always competed for the same position… we're out here competing as you can see but we're laughing and bringing out the best in each other as well."

    Asked if the pair could start together, Williams replied: "I think we've shown that. I feel like some of the best games we've played for the All Blacks have been together. I don't think that will be an issue; but obviously, TJ [Faiane], Levi [Aumua], and young Tanielu Tele'a [are here too]… there are some great players here. Everyone is going to get their shot."

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    @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

    this should get a few peoples blood pressure up

    Sonny Bill Williams - 'This could be my last year at the Blues'
    Author NZ Herald, SectionRugby, Publish Date Wednesday, 6 February 2019, 10:46AM

    Sonny Bill Williams has given his broadest hint yet that this will be his last year with the Blues and New Zealand Rugby.

    The Blues and All Blacks midfielder, who turns 34 in August, is contracted until after this year's World Cup in Japan, which he will almost certainly attend providing he remains fit due to his experience and ability to unlock opposition defences with his trademark offloads.

    But, given his injury frustrations of the last couple of years, Williams knows more than most about the pitfalls of looking too far ahead.

    Time is running out on his rugby career at the highest level and there is a sense that Williams, who tasted Super Rugby glory with the Chiefs, is targeting this season as his last chance to win a championship at the Blues.

    In an interview with the Herald today, a reflective Williams spoke of his frustrations of last year which was interrupted by wrist, knee and shoulder injuries and limited his output to a handful of games for his franchise and only five tests.

    Sonny Bill Williams at Blues pre-season training. Photo / Photosport
    Sonny Bill Williams at Blues pre-season training. Photo / Photosport
    He suffered an AC joint shoulder injury against England at Twickenham in the All Blacks' penultimate test of the year in November but is now 100 per cent fit and said he would be available for the Blues' opening game of the season against the Crusaders at Eden Park a week on Saturday.

    "For the last two years I've been so methodical with my planning and preparation," he said. "Every off-season: 'A, B, C, D and I'm going to get to E'. But the last two years have been so injury ravaged I've come to understand that I have a plan but that God is the best planner. I put my faith in God and work hard and try to be the best person – husband, father, teammate - that I can be.

    "It starts here with the Blues. I want us to have a successful year. I want the boys to succeed."

    Asked whether this could be his last year at the Blues, he replied: "It could be, bro, it could be.

    "But with age comes a little bit of wisdom. I've had my share of events that have made me the person that I am today.

    "If I did finish at the end of the year, as long as I competed every day and put my best foot forward as a person and a player I'll be happy. Who knows? Like I said, for the last two years I've had big plans."

    Given the injuries Williams has suffered over his high-impact - in all senses - and well-travelled career, a season in Japan or even retirement could follow this year but in the meantime there is a positivity surrounding the Blues in the wake of head coach Leon MacDonald's appointment that hasn't been at the franchise who last made the playoffs in 2011 for a long time.

    Sonny Bill Williams has given his biggest hint about his future with the Blues and NZ Rugby. Photo / Photosport
    Sonny Bill Williams has given his biggest hint about his future with the Blues and NZ Rugby. Photo / Photosport
    That is in part due to the increased depth in the squad – especially in the backline following the arrival of Ma'a Nonu, who played 103 tests for the All Blacks, and No10 Otere Black's return to fitness from a long-term knee injury.

    Williams spoke of the healthy competition for places and insisted both he and Nonu, a former rival for the black No12 jersey, can start in the midfield together.

    The last time the pair played together was during the second half of the 2015 World Cup final against Australia at Twickenham after Williams replaced Conrad Smith at halftime and promptly gifted the offload which sent Nonu off on a near 50m run to the tryline.

    "On and off I've played alongside Skux [Nonu] for close to 10 years, although obviously not the last couple of years," Williams said. "I made my debut for the All Blacks with him [against England at Twickenham in 2010]. We've always had a good friendship. It's no secret that we've always competed for the same position… we're out here competing as you can see but we're laughing and bringing out the best in each other as well."

    Asked if the pair could start together, Williams replied: "I think we've shown that. I feel like some of the best games we've played for the All Blacks have been together. I don't think that will be an issue; but obviously, TJ [Faiane], Levi [Aumua], and young Tanielu Tele'a [are here too]… there are some great players here. Everyone is going to get their shot."

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    We can only hope

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