Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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I put 40 on an a 1-12 Irish win earlier in the week. Losing Leavy has undermined that a bit. vdF will play his guts out but doesn't have the same heft or theft as either SOB/Leavy. And there's a report that Ringrose is carrying an injury which may take him out of the match at some point.
Ireland won't dominate the breakdown or win sufficient rucks so it's New Zealand's to lose is now my view.
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@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
I put 40 on an a 1-12 Irish win earlier in the week. Losing Leavy has undermined that a bit. vdF will play his guts out but doesn't have the same heft or theft as either SOB/Leavy. And there's a report that Ringrose is carrying an injury which may take him out of the match at some point.
Ireland won't dominate the breakdown or win sufficient rucks so it's New Zealand's to lose is now my view.
We established a couple of days ago the all blacks are clear underdogs . Nice try though.
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@jegga #1 v #2 at the home venue of #2; no way can #1 beat #2 at home.
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@taniwharugby good work bro!
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga #1 v #2 at the home venue of #2; no way can #1 beat #2 at home.
Exactly. Best we can hope for is a moral victory .
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@jegga if we can just make it competitive, keep the difference under 20, I'll be happy, thats as good as a win against these mighty Irish Warriors!
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga if we can just make it competitive, keep the difference under 20, I'll be happy, thats as good as a win against these Warriors!
I’d take that bro, it’d give us hope for next time.
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Not rocket science but I think we will look back after the game at possession stats as the winning and losing
If ireland are successful at starving us of ball we could be in for a tough day , and they do it better than anyone , this is where I fear them ,
With good supply of ball , 50/50 or above , and fine weather I think we win
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@rapido said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
vdF was awesome against us 2 years ago.
Irish have produced a lot of top loose forwards this decade.
They certainly have. Few more in the pipeline hopefully - Josh Murphy, Caelan Doris, Max Deegan at Leinster and Sean O’Brien (Mk 2) at Connacht. Conor Oliver at Munster and maybe Matty Rea at Ulster.
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@kiwiinmelb yes please lets not box kick so much, hold the ball more and see what our backs can actually do would be nice
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@jc said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Donncha O’Callaghan in today’s Times:
All Blacks deserve their status – they really do sweep the sheds
Who will win? Before we make the customary prediction, we should never lose sight of the fact that it is a commendable achievement to be facing New Zealand with no consensus as to who will edge things. They are No 1 in the world in their No 1 team sport. We are No 2 in our No 4 game.
That we’re up there with them is to the immense credit of Joe Schmidt, the ultimate example of a Kiwi who has changed our standards for the better, and the system which the IRFU has overseen in recent years. It is one based on getting the most out of a small pool.
We simply do not have the depth of athletes playing rugby that they do; if Beauden Barrett were Irish he would probably be a winger with that pace. Brodie Retallick’s power and mobility would mark him out as a No 8 instead of a lock.
Their whole country is invested in the All Blacks, physically and spiritually. We come from a tradition too, though, one which has climbed its way to the second rung of world rugby on the back of four professional teams. Our days of deferring to anybody, no matter how much we respect them, are over.
Still, I believe New Zealand will have enough to get over the line tomorrow. And between now and the World Cup they will only improve.
● Donncha O’Callaghan won 94 Ireland caps and played on two Lions tours
Great write up
This part reminded me that it is 2 small nations making the efficient best of their rugby resources. Kiwis take pride in what we achieve on the rugby paddock per capita and it's only fair that the Irish fans should to (with less resources).
Our shared rugby ethos should bring affinity not adversity.
I'm going to try to like those Irish buggers from now, best of luck you fullas. 😁
Can't wait for this game!
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@nevorian said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@kiwiinmelb yes please lets not box kick so much, hold the ball more and see what our backs can actually do would be nice
I think if we pointlessly kick the ball away , Ireland will gladly take it and not give it back , back themselves to go through the phases
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@siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jc said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Donncha O’Callaghan in today’s Times:
All Blacks deserve their status – they really do sweep the sheds
Who will win? Before we make the customary prediction, we should never lose sight of the fact that it is a commendable achievement to be facing New Zealand with no consensus as to who will edge things. They are No 1 in the world in their No 1 team sport. We are No 2 in our No 4 game.
That we’re up there with them is to the immense credit of Joe Schmidt, the ultimate example of a Kiwi who has changed our standards for the better, and the system which the IRFU has overseen in recent years. It is one based on getting the most out of a small pool.
We simply do not have the depth of athletes playing rugby that they do; if Beauden Barrett were Irish he would probably be a winger with that pace. Brodie Retallick’s power and mobility would mark him out as a No 8 instead of a lock.
Their whole country is invested in the All Blacks, physically and spiritually. We come from a tradition too, though, one which has climbed its way to the second rung of world rugby on the back of four professional teams. Our days of deferring to anybody, no matter how much we respect them, are over.
Still, I believe New Zealand will have enough to get over the line tomorrow. And between now and the World Cup they will only improve.
● Donncha O’Callaghan won 94 Ireland caps and played on two Lions tours
Great write up
This part reminded me that it is 2 small nations making the efficient best of their rugby resources. Kiwis take pride in what we achieve on the rugby paddock per capita and it's only fair that the Irish fans should to (with less resources).
Our shared rugby ethos should bring affinity not adversity.
I'm going to try to like those Irish buggers from now, best of luck you fullas. 😁
Can't wait for this game!
Likewise, bud.
Meas mór (big respect) from this Ireland fan. -
Local weather forecast for KO time. Clear Sky, 11c and no rain. Sun in afternoon so hopefully a dry track.
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@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Local weather forecast for KO time. Light breeze, Clear Sky, 11c and no rain. Sun in afternoon so hopefully a dry track by the evening.
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