Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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@beige-xi said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a disaster for Ireland. I think he's refereed something like 14 Ireland games of which Ireland have lost about 10!
These sorts of stats make no sense at all. Doesn't take into account the opposition played or any other the many other factors that determine a results (injuries, weather, etc).
What happens if he's a "disaster" for both teams? Do we end up with a negative scoreline?
Smells like getting excuses in early.
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@beige-xi said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a disaster for Ireland. I think he's refereed something like 14 Ireland games of which Ireland have lost about 10!
His stats for NZ are I think the worst in the modern era, but blowed if I can find them
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@beige-xi said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Wayne Barnes is a disaster for Ireland. I think he's refereed something like 14 Ireland games of which Ireland have lost about 10!
Didn't we have this discussion that Ireland's stars with Barnesy are similar to NZ's. Ask @Derm-McCrum. He'll confirm it
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@crucial said in AB EOYT 2018:
Wayne Barnes as Ref
NZ P16 W 10 L5 - 69% wins
IRL P15 W5 L10 - 33% winsSince Barnes started reffing tests the ABs have a losing rate of 16%. Ireland have a losing rate of 33%.
So he has almost doubled our losing rate and has doubled yours.
Pretty similar
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O'Brien out, broken arm.
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@mikethesnow is it bad form to "like" that post?
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Agree. Barnes has improved a heck of a lot. Probably leads the bunch that is a fair way behind Owens.
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@siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mikethesnow is it bad form to "like" that post?
O'Brien's replacement, Dan Leavy, was pretty much the best Irish player on the pitch against Argentina IMO.
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@mikethesnow said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
O'Brien out, broken arm.
Which means Leavy in.
Bit like losing a penny and finding a pound.
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Is that Van der Flier back in the mix? I believe he's had a nightmare run of injuries. That kid looked shit hot.
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Henshaw and Murray ruled out of Ireland's clash with the All Blacks
Henshaw pulled up with a tight hamstring on Saturday, and will miss the rest of the autumnal programme.
IRELAND HAVE BEEN dealt a major injury blow ahead of Saturdayâs clash against the All Blacks with the news Robbie Henshaw has been ruled out of the remainder of the November series.
Conor Murray, meanwhile, wonât link up with the national squad at Carton House this week, with the IRFU definitively ending talk of the scrum-half making a miraculous comeback from his neck injury against the world champions.Murray and Henshaw have been ruled out of the games against New Zealand and USA.
Source: Dan Sheridan/INPHO
While it was always unlikely Murray would come back into the equation for this weekendâs showdown at the Aviva Stadium [KO 7pm, RTĂ 2/Channel 4], the loss of Henshaw is a significant blow.
The Leinster centre pulled up with a tight hamstring in the warmup ahead of Saturdayâs win over Argentina, and despite Joe Schmidt allaying fears over his fitness in the post-match press conference, Henshaw will miss the games against New Zealand and USA.
Henshawâs injury places even greater importance on the fitness of Garry Ringrose, who sat out Saturdayâs Test against the Pumas with a hip knock sustained in Chicago but is due to return to full training tomorrow.
Will Addison, who was impressive on the occasion of his first start after being a late call-up for Henshaw, could also been in the frame to partner Bundee Aki in midfield again.Murrayâs confirmed absence, meanwhile, ends the speculation over whether heâll play on Saturday or not, after Steve Hansen yesterday insisted he believed the Munster nine would start.
âRobbie Henshawâs hamstring issue, which saw him replaced by Will Addision just prior to kick-off on Saturday, will rule him out of the remainder of the Guinness Series,â a brief IRFU injury update said.
âIreland scrum-half Conor Murray is accelerating through his recovery but will not join the squad during the Guinness Series window.â
In addition, there are a number of players being managed at Carton House today but are expected to train fully on Tuesday and Thursday.
Henshaw and Murray join Sean OâBrien on the injured list, after the flanker suffered a broken arm at the weekend.
There was no update on the fitness of Kieran Marmion and Bundee Aki, who both rolled their ankle in the second half. -
Murray was always going to be out - this story is being flogged to death at this point.
Henshaw out is disappointing but not surprising. If it's Aki and Addision so be it. That's what this November series is about - testing out the wider squad and seeing how they perform under pressure in the machine.
Kearney is still a question mark as well so it's either Larmour again or Conway. Which puts Earls and Stockdale on the wings.
It may be Aki & Ringrose or else Addison in again who did ok for his first start against the Pumas.
Beirne is worthwhile looking at for at least the bench with Toner and Ryan in second row.
Not sure Best is in greatest form and Scannell might be better but presumably Schmidt will want to have as much experience as he can. Leavy/vdF at 7, POM and Stander for the back-row with either Murphy or Conan on the bench. Props - as you were.If Marmion has rolled his ankle, then McGrath should get his start - he's nippy and fast and used to playing with Sexton at Leinster.
So if no Kearney either, maybe
Conway/Larmour, Earls, Addison, Aki, Sexton, McGrath
Healy, Best, Furlong, Toner, Ryan, Leavy, POM, Stander
Reps: Scannell, McGrath, Ryan, Beirne, Murphy, Cooney, Carbery, Conway/Larmour -
I wonder how much Schmidt was trolling the ABs with his 'I'll be talking to connor'? Even if he was better straight into an ABs test after half a year off? Hansen have straight back saying I expect him to play, when I doubt he thought anything like that at all. Fun and games
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Backstabbers or boys done good: how do All Blacks view Celtic Kiwis?
Concept of scouring the world for players is one that is little loved in New Zealand
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@billy-tell another Gregor hatchet peice?
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@billy-tell is Thomson from the south Island?
Absolutely nothing about the hatred of Cooper had to do with him being from NZ.
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@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@billy-tell is Thomson from the south Island?
Absolutely nothing about the hatred of Cooper had to do with him being from NZ.
Yep, that was all down to the knees to the head of McCaw, and how he acted in the press afterwards about it.
Was a weird article, puts a wickerman sized strawman at the beginning and then goes on a merry little journey with it.
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In what promises to be an enthralling battle of the top two test nations in world rugby, Ireland have been dealt a few injury blows to key players like Henshaw and OâBrien.
But spare a thought for the visitors, they are not without some lineup concerns of their own. We have learned that they will be without key personnel with Joe Moody and Jordan Taufua battling injury. Questions remain around why standouts Luke Romano, David Havili, try scoring sensation George Bridge and the promising All Black halves combination Mitch Drummond and Brett Cameron, will be left out.
Several sources close to one NZ Super rugby franchise say the continued non-selection of All Black veteran Israel Dagg should be the subject of a national inquiry.
Despite these major setbacks, the test match will be a close and tense affair. According to an unnamed source, the All Blacks will be best served with a 10, 12, 13 combination of Moâunga, Crotty and Goodhue to gain advantage over the home team.
