All Blacks v Springboks
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@rapido I guess the thing is, even if you do practice them, not only replicating a game situation, but the match intensity and pressure, add in that in this instance the match result hinging on your kick, maybe they just felt none of those situations were quite right, and with time up, they rolled the dice with what they knew; go for the try.
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@broughie said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@bones the primary problem is that he did not pass it American Footie style. Now there would have been no problems. Way back in the day I actually did this is a game and everyone like WTF. What did he just do. Just thinking out of the box.
OK... Ummm... Not sure what you're responding to?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@rapido I guess the thing is, even if you do practice them, not only replicating a game situation, but the match intensity and pressure, add in that in this instance the match result hinging on your kick, maybe they just felt none of those situations were quite right, and with time up, they rolled the dice with what they knew; go for the try.
I think I read somewhere (Herald app maybe?) that TJP said they were set for the droppie and then him and BB saw an opening and decided to overrule it and they went for the try - I think this was before they went to the left when DMac was back in the pocket.
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@nepia I think thats the thing, natural instinct is to run it, so while they were set, they look up, see the space...whereas say an English 10, natural instinct is to go for the DG, so the 9 looks up, sees the space, but they follow through.
Different mindset.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@nepia I think thats the thing, natural instinct is to run it, so while they were set, they look up, see the space...whereas say an English 10, natural instinct is to go for the DG, so the 9 looks up, sees the space, but they follow through.
Different mindset.
I don't want them going for DGs left right and centre. But if they concluded in the debrief that it was something they Could have done, then at least it might make them prep for the future when they might need to set up for one in a knock out game
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@nepia I think thats the thing, natural instinct is to run it, so while they were set, they look up, see the space...whereas say an English 10, natural instinct is to go for the DG, so the 9 looks up, sees the space, but they follow through.
Different mindset.
Yeah, it's funny, if the Saffa wing come up a bit quicker or slower or DMac has the ball a little bit more to the left we'd all be hailing this as a gutsy comeback win probably.
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@rapido That was irritating because he was clearly offside and Owens let play continue.
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@antipodean Nige doesn't police the offside line hard, and normally it suits the ABs. When we are attacking for most of the match, it suited the Bokke defence, who were offside at each ruck more often than not. Not saying the ABs weren't as well, but I don't watch for our offsides!
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Faf was a super pest in this game. Played bloody well.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Not sure Faf had a great deal of impact on that play anyway - he flew up super fast and Aaron Smith stepped him like he wasn't even there.
Yeah, I agree, some mentioned it in the thread so I thought I would have a look.
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Point of first contact, Smiht only gets about 2 metres .... But Faf is flying and easily evaded.
Reminds me of a Super game where Wendell Sailor stepped or fended about 6 tacklers yet only made a net gain of under a metre.
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The Faf defense I picture above.
Grabbing those stills. You see that Faf is such an alert and energetic little bugger. He knows advantage is playing and play may come back to that spot for the penalty. He anticipates a quick tap and ready and waiting while Aaron is running the ball back to the spot.
Anticipating All Blacks wanting to the up the tempo and getting in there.
Like the Jordie quick throw.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Point of first contact, Smiht only gets about 2 metres .... But Faf is flying and easily evaded.
Reminds me of a Super game where Wendell Sailor stepped or fended about 6 tacklers yet only made a net gain of under a metre.
I remember that game. Gordon Bray was creaming himself.
Or was that Tuquri
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@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@nepia I think thats the thing, natural instinct is to run it, so while they were set, they look up, see the space...whereas say an English 10, natural instinct is to go for the DG, so the 9 looks up, sees the space, but they follow through.
Different mindset.
Yeah, it's funny, if the Saffa wing come up a bit quicker or slower or DMac has the ball a little bit more to the left we'd all be hailing this as a gutsy comeback win probably.
Well, we would. But that's because people forget what they said a couple of hours earlier.
Loads of people were predicting a large win. The Bok coach was getting shit for his "must win game" comments. If people thought the Boks had a chance, then it was back home, not in NZ. This isn't a great Bok team, and we fielded a strong side. Did anyone here predict a close game?
So even if the ball goes to hand and we score a late try, that doesn't explain the discrepancy of prior expectations to results.
When the kids at school go "we were inches from winning" they don't get much sympathy. I certainly don't give it to adults.
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Faf was off side slot and a couple of wee tugs on jersies too (think it was Karl T he tackled slightly early causing him to spill the ball)...but he got away with it so why wouldn't he keep pushing.
