All Blacks v Springboks
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Rankings don't go back that far.
Hasn't someone done a historical rankings based on the results? Or did I dream that?
you can check on lassen.co.nz
It's retrospective but gives some historical reference to how shit they've been and that's what counts IMO.
So that was weird - looking at a pic of some family ... then seeing the link for the stats down below.
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@antipodean yeah who does he think he is!!? Snakey??
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http://www.allblacks.com/News/24300/wellington-otago-dan-and-goal-kicking-study-completed-by-nzr
this could possibly be a whole new thread but surprise surprise Westpac is the worst stadium for kicking success in the world. Would be great to see some more recent stats
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@nevorian haven't read the article but something to probably take into account is almost all those tests would involve the ABs. So most of the ABs kicks are probably from conversions, which are more likely to be tougher kicks than penalties which you generally only take if there's a high chance of success. Plus, I'd say the ABs aren't exactly renowned for having gun kickers when compared to other sides.
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@bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@nevorian haven't read the article but something to probably take into account is almost all those tests would involve the ABs. So most of the ABs kicks are probably from conversions, which are more likely to be tougher kicks than penalties which you generally only take if there's a high chance of success. Plus, I'd say the ABs aren't exactly renowned for having gun kickers when compared to other sides.
How good was old mate Chris Paterson from Scotland. 36 kicks In a row. What a player.
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While we're pointing the finger at players, a friend who was at the game said TJP would have scored his try after the Goodhue linebreak if he had ran towards the corner. For some unknown reason he cut back towards the defence and was tackled by Whitely.
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@Bovidae yeah that annoyed me at the time, he ran completely the wrong angle when he got the ball. I thought he was in for all money.
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We're building a good list of scapegoats now:
Jordie - outrageous quick throw with Bok defenders everywhere
Rieko - bundled into touch too often / called for quick throw then ran away from it
ALB - dumb intercept gifting them a try / ignored A Smith on his outside butchering a try Folau style
Beauden - woeful kicking, both at goal and in general play
Read - buck stops with the captain when setting up the winning play (drop goal FFS)
TJP - butchered a try running the complete wrong angle and got cut down by a big fat no. 8
DMac - poor ball security on the final play when we had an overlapThink that covers it - anyone else we can hate on?
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@no-quarter BBBR for getting injured, SBW for getting sick, Richie for retiring, and of course fucking Robbie Deans!
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@no-quarter The Caketin - the last 2 home losses have been there.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks:
While we're pointing the finger at players, a friend who was at the game said TJP would have scored his try after the Goodhue linebreak if he had ran towards the corner. For some unknown reason he cut back towards the defence and was tackled by Whitely.
He cut back because he was getting run down. I think the main camera angle showed that IMO.
Don't scapegoat TJPs decision, scapegoat his pathetic weany slow-twitch fibres ......
His getting a good head start and running stupidly flat support running lines ..... now explained .........
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
We're building a good list of scapegoats now:
Jordie - outrageous quick throw with Bok defenders everywhere
Rieko - bundled into touch too often / called for quick throw then ran away from it
ALB - dumb intercept gifting them a try / ignored A Smith on his outside butchering a try Folau style
Beauden - woeful kicking, both at goal and in general play
Read - buck stops with the captain when setting up the winning play (drop goal FFS)
TJP - butchered a try running the complete wrong angle and got cut down by a big fat no. 8
DMac - poor ball security on the final play when we had an overlapThink that covers it - anyone else we can hate on?
Aaron Smith for the quick tap penalty when we should have been kicking for the corner
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@nevorian said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
We're building a good list of scapegoats now:
Jordie - outrageous quick throw with Bok defenders everywhere
Rieko - bundled into touch too often / called for quick throw then ran away from it
ALB - dumb intercept gifting them a try / ignored A Smith on his outside butchering a try Folau style
Beauden - woeful kicking, both at goal and in general play
Read - buck stops with the captain when setting up the winning play (drop goal FFS)
TJP - butchered a try running the complete wrong angle and got cut down by a big fat no. 8
DMac - poor ball security on the final play when we had an overlapThink that covers it - anyone else we can hate on?
Aaron Smith for the quick tap penalty when we should have been kicking for the corner
just remembered his butchered kick off that didn't go the ten metres - perhaps that's why we didn't go the drop goal option later!
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Latest rankings. Cab someone explain how these work ? Full credit to S.A. but surely one won doesn't guarantee a jump of two spots?
Australia at 7 ? That must be their lowest ranking ever
Nah, in the 70s they managed to get to ninth. Predictably there are claims the coaches have to go, with counter claims asking "ok, who?".
I think making the RWC final in 2015 gave a false impression. It's been a continual slide. Since then they've managed 15 wins from 36 Tests, a success rate of 41 percent.
Which I dont understand because Cheika is, you know, the worlds best coach*
*world rugby, 2015
