Rugby Championship - what's the point?
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@machpants said in Rugby Championship - what's the point?:
Blame Ozzie for that, they set the program of Bled 1&2 first, starting in Oz, under Pulver. He thought it was a great way for Ozzie to get the excitement going in rugby for Oz - sadly Oz have played like spastics since, a flaw in his grand plan
But like all things doesn't it require SANZAAR approval?
I don't deny the push could have been done by the ARU, but everyone has to sign off on this, surely...
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@machpants Do you have a source for that? Not necessarily doubting you, but I'd be interested to read more about that decision.
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Would love the ABs to start TRC in South Africa. Hostile environment, travel factor would be a real test.
Right now the Bledisloe has no real build up or momentum behind it. Have it at the end could do that.
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@barbarian said in Rugby Championship - what's the point?:
@machpants Do you have a source for that? Not necessarily doubting you, but I'd be interested to read more about that decision.
My mistake it was Pulver's predecessor. A quick Google gives:
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If you take us out if it, it's a pretty good competition. The other teams are all pretty close, and tend to split their results (except for Argentina's strange mental block against Aus).
Do you think the 6N would benefit from having us in it? (ignoring the huge geographical issue). You would end up with the same thing, and even competition with a runaway leader (less so because every team only plays us once).
Which ever way you look at it, we're the anomaly.
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@mariner4life good points.
Fucken love being an anomaly!
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@act-crusader In the earlier draws (Tri-Nations) we seemed to often start in SA, then play Australia in Australia before playing the return games in NZ. It was reasonably challenging.
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Honestly, there isn't a point. Training run for the All Blacks every week.
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@beardie said in Rugby Championship - what's the point?:
@act-crusader In the earlier draws (Tri-Nations) we seemed to often start in SA, then play Australia in Australia before playing the return games in NZ. It was reasonably challenging.
Definitely. I recall in 2005 after the Lions series we went to SA first and lost
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@rustycruiser said in Rugby Championship - what's the point?:
Honestly, there isn't a point. Training run for the All Blacks every week.
We take one of those games lightly and we lose. We've a history of losing as soon as we take the foot off the pedal (usually after we've wrapped up the silverware, true).
While the Wallabies and the Boks are off their peaks, it's more than a little condescending to call them "a training run". Neither the Irish nor the English found them to be push-overs.
Our dominance dates back to when Auckland constructed a team of pure class. They refused to lower their standards and demanded everyone else raised theirs. Slowly they did. The result was a far better quality of provincial rugby -- fast and accurate, not the reliance on brute power of before.
The world needs to come to us, not vice versa. We're not big or rich.
That said, one poor coach and were back in the pack. Both the great Auckland and Crusaders sides found that out.
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@chester-draws rusty is a Springbok supporter.
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@chester-draws not sure Fred Allen would agree with your circle jerk about our dominance beginning with that Auckland team
pfft millennials...😉
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@mariner4life said in Rugby Championship - what's the point?:
If you take us out if it, it's a pretty good competition. The other teams are all pretty close, and tend to split their results (except for Argentina's strange mental block against Aus).
Do you think the 6N would benefit from having us in it? (ignoring the huge geographical issue). You would end up with the same thing, and even competition with a runaway leader (less so because every team only plays us once).
Which ever way you look at it, we're the anomaly.
We need to find someone else to play
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@kiwiinmelb our day will come I reckon.
This last decade or more has been truly remarkable but while I savour the sweet taste, there's a lot of us that remember what bitter is eh?
