Blues v Rebels
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@barbarian said in Blues vs. Rebels:
@akan004 who are ‘you guys’???
Fuck right off mate. The only bloke I see whinging about the ref here is you.
This business of painting entire nations as sore losers/whingers is ridiculous. Every nation has their share of dickheads who can’t cop when a ref makes a blunder.
Nobody is perfect in this regard, and throwing stones like that just makes you look like a fool.
Isn't that @akan004 's point?
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@tim said in Blues vs. Rebels:
The Tahs did get shafted by the ref in that game.
They got a couple of pretty awful calls go against them at crucial times. They got a couple go their way too.
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@tim not saying they didn't get bad calls (a couple of shockers). But it wasn't exclusive.
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@crucial said in Blues vs. Rebels:
I'll get accused of white knighting but questioning the decency of a person is getting a bit carried away surely?
@crucial I'll remind you of all the things you said about Justin Marshall, Reuben Thorne, Caleb Ralph et al. There is no moral highground.
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@canerbry said in Blues vs. Rebels:
@crucial said in Blues vs. Rebels:
I'll get accused of white knighting but questioning the decency of a person is getting a bit carried away surely?
@crucial I'll remind you of all the things you said about Justin Marshall, Reuben Thorne, Caleb Ralph et al. There is no moral highground.
Doubt I have ever questioned their decency or integrity. Just think that's a bridge too far.
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@kiwimurph said in Blues vs. Rebels:
@crucial Care to comment on Tana as a coach?
Think I've made my views clear previously, but basically I think like the latter days of Lam and some of Kirwan's tenure their ability to shine as a coach has been hamstrung by many and varied factors.
Have they been the type of coach with the experience to get better results from a dysfunctional unit or overcome injury problems disrupting planning? Clearly not. Are they the completely useless fools some fans made them out to be? I also think not. -
@crucial Yes, I got carried away there and went too far. However, he represents a region of 1.8M people in NZ, and has horribly failed them. He knows he's terrible at his job, he knows he's responsible for further diminishing rugby in that region, and he knows that there are much better coaches around.
Everything ethical, everything logical tells him to just resign.
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@tim said in Blues vs. Rebels:
@crucial said in Blues vs. Rebels:
latter days of Lam
Comparing his tenure to Lam's lack of resources is ridiculous, as @Duluth has made abundantly clear again and again and again.
Did you not read the bit 'many and varied factors'?
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@tim said in Blues vs. Rebels:
@crucial Please enlighten us as to those factors. I'd really like to know what excuses you have for him.
I've been there before with my theories about the Blues, don't feel like sticking my head above the parapet again.
Put very simplistically I don't think the crux of the problem is the coaching and thinking that a coach change will perform a miracle is wishful thinking.
Look at the other thread where the possible squad for next year is being worked out. Does it look like a great squad (or vastly different one)?
What I see when I watch the Blues is a team so desperate that the moment they get behind or experience a good period from the opposition they start making poor individual decisions and go away from gameplans. They have been like this for a long time.
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I'll put money that the turnaround will be exceedingly swift. The right coach will be appointed and things that are currently insoluble will be solved.
It's not like Super Rugby isn't full of examples of teams suddenly finding their mojo with the right coach. Teams with far fewer natural resources than the Blues too.
Obviously not straight to winning the championship, but at least to winning.