Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens
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@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@stargazer said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b And we all know how that tournament ended. The only good XVs players in that squad were the Ioane's. SBW was very average in the World Series tournaments he played, and so were Ardie and Messam.
I guess that's a matter for Titch's decisions.
The obvious point is that the best rugby players in NZ choose to play XVs. The Sevens get the leftovers. Yes - in the short run those guys become the best Sevens players, but I am amazed if anyone is thinking this is the best team we could possibly develop.
And if they're not arguing that, why are they wasting my time.
XVs and 7s are not fishing in entirely the same pool. There are plenty of professional XVs players, who would never be good enough for higher level sevens.
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@booboo said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@tim said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Even if you included XVs players then Damien McKenzie and Rieko Ioane would probably be the only certainties.
What?
There's no-one in that sevens squad who is in the top 150 rugby players in NZ.
Trael Joass isn't a first choice starter for the Mako$ and Knewstubb doesn't even make last season's squad.
What you've just said makes no sense at all... Unless you're talking about the Mako$ Sevens squad.
Seriously - you think Knewstubb is making the NZ Sevens team if Beauden Barrett decides to focus on sevens?
Joass is pushing out SBW?
But he is not
Neither are Rieko or Dmac, which was Tim's initial point!
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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No they're not. Are you saying these guys are better rugby players than all their 15s counterparts now?
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@taniwharugby said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
who cares who was or wasnt available...check this out, awesome way to finish a game
By far the most relevant and excellent point!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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No they're not. Are you saying these guys are better rugby players than all their 15s counterparts now?
Definitely. Their 15s counterparts aren't even playing Sevens. Is it a shame for you when you watch the 100m final and the best runners are missing because they don't run the 100m?
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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No they're not. Are you saying these guys are better rugby players than all their 15s counterparts now?
Definitely. Their 15s counterparts aren't even playing Sevens. Is it a shame for you when you watch the 100m final and the best runners are missing because they don't run the 100m?
Or the guys who win the US softball champs, because the best guys are playing baseball.
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@machpants They're showing the men's final (first half) on TV1 now. Not sure where you are ...
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@stargazer when Brazier gets to about 40m to go you see her looking round for support, sees there isnt any and knows she has to go all the way!
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@stargazer said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@machpants They're showing the men's final (first half) on TV1 now. Not sure where you are ...
Northland, Chur got it on
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@taniwharugby said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@stargazer when Brazier gets to about 40m to go you see her looking round for support, sees there isnt any and knows she has to go all the way!
Accelerates away like a good Cantab.
Where's my spare fuel can!
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