Parker v ??
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@african-monkey would it have made any difference if had just been HIggins calling out AJ instead of JP who had previously made himself out to be very humble, respectful and polite (yeah I know how daft that is in thier sport)
Genuine question
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@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
Remember when Shane Cameron's manager decided it would be a good idea to use his key ring torch, to cringe worthy effect, in the presser before Cameron was basically ruined by Tua? "See that little light? Well its going to be [turns light off] lights out for David Tua..."
Higgins is like that every time he opens his mouth. Its like someone's westie uncle has stumbled drunkenly into a press conference and they're actually letting him speak. There's so much corny ass machismo going on. Higgins is the personification of a bright yellow trans am at at traffic light with a bright red outline eagle on the bonnet, hard out revving its engine at teenagers while blasting "eye of the tiger". Out of date.
I remember Cameron tried the old 'O for awesome' stuff to try and wind up Tua. Fair to say it didn't work.
Fair to say it did work, but not to Cameron's advantage...
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@no-quarter said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
Remember when Shane Cameron's manager decided it would be a good idea to use his key ring torch, to cringe worthy effect, in the presser before Cameron was basically ruined by Tua? "See that little light? Well its going to be [turns light off] lights out for David Tua..."
Higgins is like that every time he opens his mouth. Its like someone's westie uncle has stumbled drunkenly into a press conference and they're actually letting him speak. There's so much corny ass machismo going on. Higgins is the personification of a bright yellow trans am at at traffic light with a bright red outline eagle on the bonnet, hard out revving its engine at teenagers while blasting "eye of the tiger". Out of date.
I remember Cameron tried the old 'O for awesome' stuff to try and wind up Tua. Fair to say it didn't work.
Fair to say it did work, but not to Cameron's advantage...
Smacked him over in round 2 and went to BK afterwards. Legend.
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@african-monkey its not that they went on attack. Its that they did it in the manner they did that is cringe worthy. You can be the bad guy and be cool. But Parker camp come across as amateur.
Its like they sit down and come up with a play. What will get them noticed. And they plan out retorts on what they think Joshua's/Hearn's reactions will be. None of it is of the cuff. They are going to say what they wanted to say regardless of how the presser or interview is going. It comes out weird and contrived.
If they had an ounce of charisma between them it could be so much better.
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@raznomore It had to be done. You're right they did sit down and come up with a play and it has worked. Off the cuff or not the same shit is still gonna come out of David Higgins' mouth. They've come out as they have been told by Eddie Hearn that to make the fight happen they have to find a way to get Joe's name out there to make the fight happen as he supposedly wasn't a big enough name in the UK and they came out and made a video targetting AJ's weaknesses and have drummed this into people's heads to the point where AJ's team have taken notice and it has annoyed them. Call it amateurish or whatever you like, the bottom line is, is that they found a ploy to make the fight happen and it has worked and now team Parker are going into a unification fight and are looking at a massive payday as a result and as a boxing fan, I enjoy listening to something different at AJ's press conferences other that the same 'stay humble', 'stay hungry' dross we always hear with his fake nice guy personality he puts on for everyone while everyone bows down to him. David Higgins has done a lot of work to make this fight happen, now it's up to Joe and Kevin Barry to find a strategy to make history, he's certainly a live underdog who shouldn't be underestimated that's for sure.
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@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@no-quarter said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
Remember when Shane Cameron's manager decided it would be a good idea to use his key ring torch, to cringe worthy effect, in the presser before Cameron was basically ruined by Tua? "See that little light? Well its going to be [turns light off] lights out for David Tua..."
Higgins is like that every time he opens his mouth. Its like someone's westie uncle has stumbled drunkenly into a press conference and they're actually letting him speak. There's so much corny ass machismo going on. Higgins is the personification of a bright yellow trans am at at traffic light with a bright red outline eagle on the bonnet, hard out revving its engine at teenagers while blasting "eye of the tiger". Out of date.
I remember Cameron tried the old 'O for awesome' stuff to try and wind up Tua. Fair to say it didn't work.
Fair to say it did work, but not to Cameron's advantage...
Smacked him over in round 2 and went to BK afterwards. Legend.
Just went and re watched on youtube. Man, Tua destroyed him.
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@tewaio said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@no-quarter said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
Remember when Shane Cameron's manager decided it would be a good idea to use his key ring torch, to cringe worthy effect, in the presser before Cameron was basically ruined by Tua? "See that little light? Well its going to be [turns light off] lights out for David Tua..."
Higgins is like that every time he opens his mouth. Its like someone's westie uncle has stumbled drunkenly into a press conference and they're actually letting him speak. There's so much corny ass machismo going on. Higgins is the personification of a bright yellow trans am at at traffic light with a bright red outline eagle on the bonnet, hard out revving its engine at teenagers while blasting "eye of the tiger". Out of date.
I remember Cameron tried the old 'O for awesome' stuff to try and wind up Tua. Fair to say it didn't work.
Fair to say it did work, but not to Cameron's advantage...
Smacked him over in round 2 and went to BK afterwards. Legend.
Just went and re watched on youtube. Man, Tua destroyed him.
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Tua wasn't stupid in that fight, Lewis was clever.
It turned out to be a rubbish fight because the match up was poor. There was no way Lewis was going to be drawn into a scrap and I think he truly respected Tua's power. He simply kept him at arms length and picked off the jabs whenever Tua tried to engage.
I think AJ will be asked to do similar. Don't let JP goad you into a scrap and run the risk of getting caught with a good punch. Stay back and make him come to you.
A boring AJ win won't harm him at all. He would still add a belt and pack out a venue for Wilder.I do wonder though if JP and Barry have been boxing a little clever, not wanting to show much. If so, it almost backfired on them against Fury. We have seen times when JP has used very good head movement and fast combos to surprise opponents. There is also the option to do all the talking about the chin but target the body and arms. Bash those beach muscles until they are very sore before targeting the head.
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@tewaio said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@no-quarter said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
Remember when Shane Cameron's manager decided it would be a good idea to use his key ring torch, to cringe worthy effect, in the presser before Cameron was basically ruined by Tua? "See that little light? Well its going to be [turns light off] lights out for David Tua..."
Higgins is like that every time he opens his mouth. Its like someone's westie uncle has stumbled drunkenly into a press conference and they're actually letting him speak. There's so much corny ass machismo going on. Higgins is the personification of a bright yellow trans am at at traffic light with a bright red outline eagle on the bonnet, hard out revving its engine at teenagers while blasting "eye of the tiger". Out of date.
I remember Cameron tried the old 'O for awesome' stuff to try and wind up Tua. Fair to say it didn't work.
Fair to say it did work, but not to Cameron's advantage...
Smacked him over in round 2 and went to BK afterwards. Legend.
Just went and re watched on youtube. Man, Tua destroyed him.
Fark yeah. Cameron was lucky (or actually unlucky in reality) for the fight to get out of the first round. That barrage at the start of the 2nd round was BRUTAL
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No doubt Hearns and Higgins are working together on this , Hearns is encouraging him to make some headlines , any pre fight banter is just theatre , you could see a few smirks at each other in the presser, and you can see they are working together in this interview, Hearns actually wants him to amp it up
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@jk said in Parker v ??:
@tewaio said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@no-quarter said in Parker v ??:
@mn5 said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
Remember when Shane Cameron's manager decided it would be a good idea to use his key ring torch, to cringe worthy effect, in the presser before Cameron was basically ruined by Tua? "See that little light? Well its going to be [turns light off] lights out for David Tua..."
Higgins is like that every time he opens his mouth. Its like someone's westie uncle has stumbled drunkenly into a press conference and they're actually letting him speak. There's so much corny ass machismo going on. Higgins is the personification of a bright yellow trans am at at traffic light with a bright red outline eagle on the bonnet, hard out revving its engine at teenagers while blasting "eye of the tiger". Out of date.
I remember Cameron tried the old 'O for awesome' stuff to try and wind up Tua. Fair to say it didn't work.
Fair to say it did work, but not to Cameron's advantage...
Smacked him over in round 2 and went to BK afterwards. Legend.
Just went and re watched on youtube. Man, Tua destroyed him.
Fark yeah. Cameron was lucky (or actually unlucky in reality) for the fight to get out of the first round. That barrage at the start of the 2nd round was BRUTAL
I actually predicted a second round KO on the fern back in 09. I'm extremely proud I got it right.
Lewis is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, no shame in Tua losing to him.
As for this fight coming up it'll be compelling. I'm sure any number of bandwagoners will get behind Parker as is the kiwi way.
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@crucial Tua was very stupid IMO. He went looking for the KO when he could have gone to the body. He could have at least tried to get under the jab and use his lack of height to his advantage. He showed a lack of ring knowledge. Yes Lewis had a great plan to avoid the KO by using his jab. But Tua showed he was nothing more than a KO artist with no plan B.
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@raznomore said in Parker v ??:
@crucial Tua was very stupid IMO. He went looking for the KO when he could have gone to the body. He could have at least tried to get under the jab and use his lack of height to his advantage. He showed a lack of ring knowledge. Yes Lewis had a great plan to avoid the KO by using his jab. But Tua showed he was nothing more than a KO artist with no plan B.
Tua would have thrived in many other eras where really tall guys were rare. Imagine a slugfest between him and Rocky Marciano.
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@number-10 said in Parker v ??:
Wasn't it subsequently revealed that Tua had some kind of injury that he fought with and they kept secret in the leadup?
Was likely Suzy's fault.
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@kiwimurph said in Parker v ??:
Genuine question - is Parker a better chance of winning vs Joshua than Tua was vs Lewis?
Hard to answer , both are underdogs , the thing with AJ , we still don’t really know how good he is , the next 12 months will probably answer all that
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For those in the know... how do these guys stack up in terms of fighting style? Anything that might give one or the other an advantage in terms of how they operate in the ring? So far I've seen comments about Joe having faster hands, but AP being a heavier hitter, then the stuff about AP's chin...
I am really hoping we see that hand speed coming back for Joe - there have been flashes of it in his last few fights, but he's also looked a bit short of condition when going deeper into the fight. I'd love to think they've been foxing a bit to entice AP into the fight... but that might be giving Barry and co a bit too much credit though? surely it's a risk to hold anything back in the heavyweight division with the sort of stopping power the big boppers have?
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To be honest I think AJ has the advantage in most areas , size , reach , power .
While fans make a case for joes speed and power , if the only fights you had seen of his were the last 3 , you would probably question if we are talking about the same fighter .
But anything can happen on the night . Some say ajs style will suit joe , I guess we are about to find out .
I’ve got AJ winnng , probably tko , with joe putting up a brave performance, but wearing too many heavy shots .
