World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017
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@salacious-crumb said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
"should... not necessarily... could... in the future."
Thanks doc.
Good isn't he?
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so a quick recovery is not necessarily a quick fix...
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@salacious-crumb said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
The "What The F#ck Is A Disectomy" Award 2017:
Kieran Read"[P]rofessional opinion of Dr Rodney Gordon, the President of the New Zealand Spine Society and an orthopedic spinal surgeon at Middlemore Hospital, who said the 32-year-old Read was now probably in "damage control"."
Jesuschrist, wtf does that mean?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11960767
Was that a disectomy ... or a discectomy?
I suspect that latter refers to trimming a disc so it doesnt press on and restrict the sciatic nerve.
A disectomy ... i hate to think.
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It may only be a team from PR but great to see Portia Woodman selected in the World XV of the year
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really dont see the point of this...this time a form nz xv...men and women...may as well include age group and schoolboy stuff too.
http://www.allblacks.com/News/31891/the-2017-new-zealand-form-xv
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@taniwharugby I have no problem with it whatsoever. It's a form XV, so based on performance against peers. It's not about who would beat who in a one on one contest. In a form XV you can take confounding factors like hormonal differences, differences in lean muscle mass v water v fat mass ratio etc out of the equation. If you don't remove those factors, you can't even compare Super Rugby players (especially All Blacks) with Mitre 10 Cup players without Super Rugby experience, because of their difference in experience and Mitre 10 Cup players never having had to compete with SR players. For ex, Ennor never having competed against Crotty or ALB. Indeed, they could have included schoolboys.
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@stargazer this xv is debatable as it is, let alone debating players that arent even the same gender...at least in most cases those in a all male side have at least come up against one another at some point
Just more PC BS IMO.
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@taniwharugby Has nothing to do with being PC in my opinion. I agree some spots are debatable, but I think they're spot on with Cocksedge and Woodman. In your reasoning, there could never be one award for men and women in sport. I guess you also have a problem with the Black Ferns being elected team of the year then?
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@stargazer no I dont...how is that even comparable, you are trying to put words in my mouth?
That award has nothign to do with gender, it is about the best 'team'
I think it is PC, so we will just have to agree to disagree.
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@crucial said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
I thought the selection was fine. It isn't meant t be an Earth vs Mars selection, it is recognition for the best performance in each position irrespective of gender.
....and we live in a world where it's very dangerous to assume one way or another.
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So the finalists are confirmed.
Both men’s and women’s seem light to me ( especially the men’s) I guess yachting felt it was unfair to single out a particular member but to me Burling would have been a strong chance to win.
Team must be only a 2 horse race, Team NZ for me -
Hallberg Awards Finalists
Just to add the full list of finalists (copied from the Hallberg website in its original order; don't know why NZH changed it):
Sportswoman of the year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Lydia Ko (golf), Portia Woodman (rugby), Sarah Goss (rugby).Sportsman of the year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Beauden Barrett (rugby), Brendan Hartley (motor sport), Ross Taylor (cricket), Tom Walsh (athletics).Disabled sportsperson of the year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Corey Peters (para alpine skiing), Holly Robinson (para athletics), Sophie Pascoe (para swimming), William Stedman (para athletics).Sports team of the year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Black Ferns (rugby), Black Sox (softball), Team New Zealand (yachting), women's K2 canoe (Lisa Carrington and Caitlin Ryan).Coach of the year:
Gary Hay (rowing), Glenn Moore (rugby), Gordopn Walker (canoe racing), Mark Sorenson (softball).Emerging Talent finalists:
Ellesse Andrews (cycling), Josh Armit (yachting), Matthew MacDonald (rowing), Nico Porteous (freeskiing).The Halberg Awards judges comprised of sports journalists, former athletes and coaches who selected the finalists. The winners will be presented at the 55th Halberg Awards ceremony on Thursday 8 February 2018 at Spark Arena in Auckland and televised live on SKY SPORT. Other awards presented during the ceremony include; New Zealand’s Favourite Sporting Moment (public vote category), Sport New Zealand Leadership, Lifetime Achievement and inductees into the Sports Hall of Fame. -
Barrett? haha hilarious
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Hallberg Awards Finalists
Just to add the full list of finalists (copied from the Hallberg website in its original order; don't know why NZH changed it):
Sportswoman of the year:
Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Lydia Ko (golf), Portia Woodman (rugby), Sarah Goss (rugby).Sportsman of the year:
Beauden Barrett (rugby), Brendan Hartley (motor sport), Ross Taylor (cricket), Tom Walsh (athletics).Disabled sportsperson of the year:
Corey Peters (para alpine skiing), Holly Robinson (para athletics), Sophie Pascoe (para swimming), William Stedman (para athletics).Sports team of the year:
Black Ferns (rugby), Black Sox (softball), Team New Zealand (yachting), women's K2 canoe (Lisa Carrington and Caitlin Ryan).Coach of the year:
Gary Hay (rowing), Glenn Moore (rugby), Gordopn Walker (canoe racing), Mark Sorenson (softball).Emerging Talent finalists:
Ellesse Andrews (cycling), Josh Armit (yachting), Matthew MacDonald (rowing), Nico Porteous (freeskiing).I hope Luteru does it. Always good to see him emerge from Kanes shadow.
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Disabled sportsperson of the year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Corey Peters (para alpine skiing), Holly Robinson (para athletics), Sophie Pascoe (para swimming), William Stedman (para athletics).Want to be treated the same, give me a special prize no one else is eligible for.
