World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017
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@taniwharugby said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@crucial said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Some were quite predictable, others not so much, but IMO the awards went to the right winners.
Yep, can't really argue with any of those. all deserved.
IMO though (and it is a 'fans award'), although I loved the Woodman try, the one that made me really cheer and get excited by the sheer audacity and skill was Tony Pulu's finish off the DMac, Lowe, Messam interchanges. That was one to watch over and over.given it is 'try of the year' not 'individual try' of the year I tend to agree...but everything else was (rightly) going Black Ferns so this was too.,
Interesting seeing comments out this morning how the Black Ferns are not a curtain raiser, they are the main event...
Question is, would they regularly sell Eden Park out if they were the main event?
Short answer: no. Long answer: not a chance.
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Congratulations Beauden Barrett on being named NZ Rugby player of the year!
What do you mean "he wasn't"? But he was World Rugby player of the year, surely that makes him automatically NZ rugby player of the year too?
Oh, I see. Well you can't have it all, but at least he was nominated!
What do you mean "he wasn't"? You're telling me the World Rugby player of the year couldn't even make the nomination for NZ rugby player of the year?
But what is up with World Rugby? They usually get these things right - I mean Jerome Kaino in 2011 for example.
What do you mean "he didn't"?
Oh I see. Well who did get NZ Rugby player of the year then? Let me guess - Rieko Ioane!
Not him either?!
(congratulations to Sam Whitelock :p)
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@bones and by a different panel.
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@taniwharugby said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@bones and by a different panel.
and does that WR panel even look at how players perform in club competitions (SR, domestic comp.)?
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@stargazer I expect if BB played club or M10 Cup they'd watch him...
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@taniwharugby said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@bones and by a different panel.
and does that WR panel even look at how players perform in club competitions (SR, domestic comp.)?
It comes down to the player that had the biggest impact on the game in the year. DC won on the basis of one brilliant performance at a very key time at a very high level.
I doubt there is in depth analysis of all games played.In a non RWC year it does become a reward for the biggest name though. eg this year all of the NH comments about BB were around him being a great player. They just had to have the previous year pointed out to them to notice.
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@crucial said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
It comes down to the player that had the biggest impact on the game in the year. DC won on the basis of one brilliant performance at a very key time at a very high level.
I doubt there is in depth analysis of all games played.In a non RWC year it does become a reward for the biggest name though. eg this year all of the NH comments about BB were around him being a great player. They just had to have the previous year pointed out to them to notice.
For that reason I was surprised a Lion didn't get it just because that was by far the most prominent stage this year. Beauden's best test (but not spectacular) was probably Lions Test 1 though so perhaps that worked in his favour.
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guess this could go in here...sort of an award
a few things stood out for me:
Woodman is the only women's player to make the 2017 team of the year judged by respected rugby website Planet Rugby.
and then how 'respected' PR under-rates BBBR by naming Itoje ahead of him...
The Planet Rugby XV for 2017:
15 Stuart Hogg (British & Irish Lions, Scotland and Glasgow), 14 Portia Woodman (New Zealand women), 13 Jonathan Davies (British & Irish Lions, Wales and Scarlets, 12 Owen Farrell (British & Irish Lions, England and Saracens, 11 Rieko Ioane (New Zealand and Blues), 10 Beauden Barrett (New Zealand and Hurricanes), 9 Conor Murray (British & Irish Lions, Ireland and Munster), 8 Kieran Read (New Zealand and Crusaders), 7 Sam Cane (New Zealand and Chiefs), 6 Siya Kolisi (South Africa and Stormers), 5 Sam Whitelock (New Zealand and Crusaders), 4 Maro Itoje (British & Irish Lions, England and Saracens), 3 Tadhg Furlong (British & Irish Lions, Ireland and Leinster), 2 Malcolm Marx (South Africa and Lions), 1 Mako Vunipola (British & Irish Lions, England and Saracens).
one of the comments was amusing and apt...
Its like putting the strongest antelope between a pride of lions.. even though the antelope is still the best among its peers, the lions will eat it up.
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The "What The F#ck Is A Disectomy" Award 2017:
Kieran Read"[P]rofessional opinion of Dr Rodney Gordon, the President of the New Zealand Spine Society and an orthopedic spinal surgeon at Middlemore Hospital, who said the 32-year-old Read was now probably in "damage control"."
Jesuschrist, wtf does that mean?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11960767
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@salacious-crumb said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Jesuschrist, wtf does that mean?
It's quite clear:
"should alleviate his chronic leg pain and lead to a quick recovery but it's not necessarily a quick fix and his damaged disc could provide problems in the future."
"That is the professional opinion of Dr Rodney Gordon".Who should go into politics because he hasn't really said anything.
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@salacious-crumb said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
"should... not necessarily... could... in the future."
Thanks doc.
Good isn't he?
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so a quick recovery is not necessarily a quick fix...
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@salacious-crumb said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
The "What The F#ck Is A Disectomy" Award 2017:
Kieran Read"[P]rofessional opinion of Dr Rodney Gordon, the President of the New Zealand Spine Society and an orthopedic spinal surgeon at Middlemore Hospital, who said the 32-year-old Read was now probably in "damage control"."
Jesuschrist, wtf does that mean?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11960767
Was that a disectomy ... or a discectomy?
I suspect that latter refers to trimming a disc so it doesnt press on and restrict the sciatic nerve.
A disectomy ... i hate to think.
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It may only be a team from PR but great to see Portia Woodman selected in the World XV of the year
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really dont see the point of this...this time a form nz xv...men and women...may as well include age group and schoolboy stuff too.
http://www.allblacks.com/News/31891/the-2017-new-zealand-form-xv
