England V Australia
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Tough game in atrocious conditions. Scoreline very misleading.
It was a tight game, and the bounce of the ball went England's way. That happens. They're at home in conditions they are better suited to.
I was surprised with how well our forwards muscled up, and to have a shot at winning with 10 to go, despite playing with 13 at one point... you can't be too unhappy.
The refereeing was OK, but I can't help thinking he bottled a few big calls. Hooper was offside from the kick, but did it really impact the play? It looked to me like Korobiete made contact as he tried to chip it through, which would have put him onside. Was that looked at? No.
The Moore obstruction call was a fair one, but Robshaw was way offside to begin with;
Ultimately England were the better side and deserved the victory. But it was clearly much closer than the scoreline suggested.
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@mick-gold-coast-qld said in England V Australia:
@bones said in England V Australia:
"@mick-gold-coast-qld I think you probably lost anyone as soon as you said "Melodie".Nah, I've watched her for some years in the NPC / ITM / Craven A Filters Cup and she has demonstrated that she studies the game, understands it well enough and treats the blokes who bring it to us with due respect. I reckon she succeeds on her merits.
She is way ahead of the weather girlie blondes the League and the AFL shove under our noses to satisfy the manic determination to convince the masses of the vital true truth that wymminses and men are precisely the same and that to suggest otherwise is raaacist.
I've never asked - is she not well regarded in NZ rugby?
Melodie Robinson was a reasonably good flanker in her days and played for the Black Ferns.
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@stargazer He was having a chat with someone who had a Wallabies track suit and someone who looked like a match official(not the ref) right after half time whistle, before heading to the sheds.
EDIT: seemed like a heated chat too
No idea if he approached someone in the sheds
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@stargazer said in England V Australia:
@booboo said in England V Australia:
Actually I agree with Mick. She's one of the best chicks who present men's sport
Uhm, "men's sports"?
Yes sport played by men, as opposed to when they are played by women.
For example: Men's rugby v Women's rugby
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@stargazer said in England V Australia:
Anyone know more about this?
Wasn't it a "probation " of sorts? For a certain period of time rather than forever?
Papers reports are that he approached the ref but can't always believe what they write
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@crucial Yup
Guilty Waratahs coach Michael Cheika cops fine, suspended ban for cameraman abuse
Waratahs coach Michael Cheika has been hit with a suspended six month ban and $6000 worth of legal costs after pleading guilty to verbally abusing a cameraman in Durban last month.
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Didn't see game but saw interview. The woman interviewing him did absolutely everything to wind him up. I know Cheika brings most of this on himself, but that was absolutely pathetic.
What fucks me off most is that those piston wristed gibbons in the press that demand perfection, manners, morals etc from the players and coaches don't even try to abide by those high standards themselves. Total scum.
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@booboo said in England V Australia:
Chek blows up at interviewer ...
... niggling him though
I'm not fan of Cheika, but that was pathetic of the interviewer. I think he handled it well when he would have been within his rights to tell her to fuck off.
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@barbarian said in England V Australia:
Hooper was offside from the kick, but did it really impact the play? It looked to me like Korobiete made contact as he tried to chip it through, which would have put him onside. Was that looked at? No.
That was a crazy decision, Hooper slows down which is usually enough to suggest you aren't participating, and then Koroibete runs past him, which, by the laws is enough to put him back onside, doesn't matter if Koro touched the ball in the end.
These big calls going against you, suggest that you are creating opportunities, you just gotta god damn take even some of them. With better execution the game would have been 6-20-odd going to that last ten minutes.
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@rebound said in England V Australia:
@sapetyvi
Not that the referee team would relook at it. Been incredibly one sided refereeing in England's favourI did relook at it. Not clearly offside at all, though it should have got another look at the time.
I thought the ref was perfectly fair myself. I would have ruled as he did for all the touchy ones. Beale hit the ball down at full stretch. Moore definitely obstructed a tackle that was almost held up despite him being in the way.
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Went back again. Youngs starts more or less in line, but the kicker's movement forward means he doesn't start running until well behind the offside line.
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I've just watched a replay. As others have said it was a strange game as the scoreline wasn't a true reflection of the test.
I still believe the ball did touch the chalk in the leadup to Daly's try but the TMO thought otherwise. Beale only has himself to blame by not showing enough urgency. Same for the dumb shit from Moore.
I don't believe Hooper did stop so no problems there. Koroibete didn't appear to touch the ball so it was a try gone begging.
Now for the fun stuff, the Cheika presser.
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Funny how some are devaluing that English victory. It looked a fair tussle in the forwards but not in the backs. And England knew when to attack. Played with more strategic ability. I still feel the Aussie midfield are drytrack bullies. And Foley is not really in control, the big winger is ok though. Hodge? He has played 10 out hasn't he?
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Sounds to me like the big bopper midfield failed, as many predicted. That drop by Kuridrani after Kerevi carved off huge metres is fucking unforgiveable - but then, so is a flick pass from Kerevi when a simple, two handed pop would do.
Doubt whether I'll watch it, besides the post match "interview" I've seen where the interviewer tries to dig a reaction out of Cheika.
Sure, he's being a pill in the coaches box. But isn't the interview supposed to be about the game? Hit him up about the coaches box in the presser
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@barbarian said in England V Australia:
The refereeing was OK, but I can't help thinking he bottled a few big calls. Hooper was offside from the kick, but did it really impact the play? It looked to me like Korobiete made contact as he tried to chip it through, which would have put him onside. Was that looked at? No.
The Moore obstruction call was a fair one, but Robshaw was way offside to begin with;
Yeah, the ref clearly asked the TMO to check the offside but then it became a bit of an afterthought when they started obsessing about the obstruction due to Farrell's whinging.
Also agree re: the first try, they didn't even check if Korobiete touched it before making the decision.
Bloody tough calls against the Wallabies, and some opportunistic tries from England who as always are bloody tough to beat at Twikenham. Hugely frustrating game to watch for Wallabies fans, my better half was ropeable after the match.
