2017 November Internationals
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@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
Baffling how the games all overlap or kick of at the same time. Surely there are more broadcasting bucks to be had by staggering them?
This Saturday the following clashesItaly v Argentina, Sat 18/11, k/o 2.00pm UK time:
Wales v Georgia, Sat 18/11, k/o 2.30pm UK time:
England v Australia, Sat 18/11, k/o 3.00pm UK time:
Scotland v New Zealand, Sat 18/11, k/o 5.15pm UK time:
Ireland v Fiji, Sat 18/11, k/o 5.30pm UK time:Sky v BBC
Twats
How does that work? Each union sells each match independently? Or all home games as a package?
Wales and Scotland to BBC and England/Ireland to Sky?The latter.
Except for the 6 Nations.
Then it's only England home matches on Sky
I think. Not sure about the Frogs.You lot (I include all in this vicinity) really made a dogs breakfast of the game when it went pro didn't you?
To be fair, we've had several goes at it now and seemingly make it worse each time, with as @Pot-Hale says Ireland being the notable exception.
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@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@pot-hale said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
Baffling how the games all overlap or kick of at the same time. Surely there are more broadcasting bucks to be had by staggering them?
This Saturday the following clashesItaly v Argentina, Sat 18/11, k/o 2.00pm UK time:
Wales v Georgia, Sat 18/11, k/o 2.30pm UK time:
England v Australia, Sat 18/11, k/o 3.00pm UK time:
Scotland v New Zealand, Sat 18/11, k/o 5.15pm UK time:
Ireland v Fiji, Sat 18/11, k/o 5.30pm UK time:Sky v BBC
Twats
How does that work? Each union sells each match independently? Or all home games as a package?
Wales and Scotland to BBC and England/Ireland to Sky?The latter.
Except for the 6 Nations.
Then it's only England home matches on Sky
I think. Not sure about the Frogs.You lot (I include all in this vicinity) really made a dogs breakfast of the game when it went pro didn't you?
No. Rugby in Ireland in the nineties was severely depressing. When IRFU finally decided to get professional in 2000 it got a whole lot better. And we’re fortunate that wedon’t have to rely on BBC or Sky to watch Ireland matches which helps.
I'm not saying things were better in the amateur days just that the current set up could be much more betterer.
edit: following football models for a sport that involves impact and collisions as part of the play is by far the biggest fuck up.
Not sure what you mean by "following football models......."
Can you expound further on your theory, please?
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@pot-hale said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@pot-hale said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:
Baffling how the games all overlap or kick of at the same time. Surely there are more broadcasting bucks to be had by staggering them?
This Saturday the following clashesItaly v Argentina, Sat 18/11, k/o 2.00pm UK time:
Wales v Georgia, Sat 18/11, k/o 2.30pm UK time:
England v Australia, Sat 18/11, k/o 3.00pm UK time:
Scotland v New Zealand, Sat 18/11, k/o 5.15pm UK time:
Ireland v Fiji, Sat 18/11, k/o 5.30pm UK time:Sky v BBC
Twats
How does that work? Each union sells each match independently? Or all home games as a package?
Wales and Scotland to BBC and England/Ireland to Sky?The latter.
Except for the 6 Nations.
Then it's only England home matches on Sky
I think. Not sure about the Frogs.You lot (I include all in this vicinity) really made a dogs breakfast of the game when it went pro didn't you?
No. Rugby in Ireland in the nineties was severely depressing. When IRFU finally decided to get professional in 2000 it got a whole lot better. And we’re fortunate that wedon’t have to rely on BBC or Sky to watch Ireland matches which helps.
I'm not saying things were better in the amateur days just that the current set up could be much more betterer.
edit: following football models for a sport that involves impact and collisions as part of the play is by far the biggest fuck up.
Not sure what you mean by "following football models......."
Can you expound further on your theory, please?
Just the number of concurrent competitions that place big demands on players. Premierships alongside knockout comps and European cups with International games mixed in as well.
Not so bad in wendyball, but in a collision sport it gets too much.Also not saying that the SH has it perfect. Quite obvious that Super Rugby has become a pigs ear of a comp as it has expanded and contracted but at least we manage to avoid the club vs country conflicts.
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@pakman said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial Slight panic finding my tickets! Am in North 4.
I've always had good times going up for this game.
Especially sweet was afterwards watching the Kiwis browneye the Kangaroos 24-0 in the 2005 Tri Nations final.
Jeez its going to be bloody cold! Forecast for low single digits during the game. Was thinking of wearing my kilt!
...and AB jersey of course.
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@pakman said in 2017 November Internationals:
@crucial Do you have some Scottish ancestry?
A smidge. I'm more an 'adopted scot'. Lived there for a while. Claim my tartan through the missus so wear the hunting version. Got the kilt for my wedding but give it an outing every now and then.
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FFS Cuthbert 😭
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@mikethesnow said in 2017 November Internationals:
FFS Cuthbert 😭
It does make you think that despite all the talk of more expansive rugby, Gatland can't get past the big muster plan A.
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Canada's squad to play Spain has been named. You can find it here.
I noticed this in the squad announcement:
Ontario’s Tyler Ardron is no longer available for selection for the final two games of the series based on professional rugby commitments in New Zealand;
I'm surprised that he apparently has to be back for Chiefs pre-season and isn't allowed to play for his country.
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@stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:
Canada's squad to play Spain has been named. You can find it here.
I noticed this in the squad announcement:
Ontario’s Tyler Ardron is no longer available for selection for the final two games of the series based on professional rugby commitments in New Zealand;
I'm surprised that he apparently has to be back for Chiefs pre-season and isn't allowed to play for his country.
Yeah, damn poaching Super Rugby franchises running roughshod over the international game. Money talks.
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Why the fuck have the chiefs signed a Canadian anyway?
What position does this guy play?
Irrelevant question though because it’s not like we wouldn’t have enough local talent to fill that space.I can accept the odd PI player here and there coz they’re our neighbors and we should be helping them out, but anyone outside of that can bugger of to Europe for a professional contract.
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I agree. However, rightly or wrongly, they are stuck with him. I suppose there could be a slight acceptance if he was a miles in front clear choice to start every game but he is unlikely to be that. If he is simply just a member of the squad there is very little to justify his inclusion and the money could be better used to develop a player that might be of use to NZ rugby at some level in the future.
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DISCIPLINARY UPDATE – PATRICK TUIPULOTU DECISION
New Zealand lock, Patrick Tuipulotu,, appeared on Friday 17 November before an independent World Rugby Judicial Officer in Edinburgh having been cited by an independent World Rugby Citing Commissioner for alleged foul play (dangerous charging) in the match between France XV and New Zealand XV at Groupama Stadium in Lyon on Tuesday 14 November. The Judicial Officer, Roger Morris (Wales) listened to representations by and on behalf of the player, viewed video footage of the incident and reviewed all of the other evidence. He was not satisfied on the balance of probabilities that act an of foul play had been committed, and accordingly dismissed the citing complaint. Patrick Tuipulotu is free to resume playing immediately.
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All this weekend's results can be found in the first post of this thread.
Not in that post, but noteworthy, is that Uruguay beat Namibia 52 - 36 in Windhoek. -
@stargazer Good. Should never have been cited.