Bledisloe 3
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There were always going to be scratchy performances this year with the personnel changes and young players coming in.
But we have been here before. In 2012 after that Brisbane draw there were some signs that things weren’t right. We then went on to lose to England in a very convincing win to the Poms.
2010 Bledisloe series seems eerily similar to this year. First Bledisloe we won convincingly and then the next three were very scratchy performances.
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On a related matter: while this is unnecessary from Coles on Beale, there isn't much in it.
However, Coles looks a right twat carrying on for the rest of the game with niggle.
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The sky is falling, haha
How many losses would you guys be willing to stomach to ensure Ian Foster doesn't take over as coach?
Well, let's keep this question for 2019, and keep the stellar record until then.Personally, I'd hope we lose 50% of matches in 2019, win the RWC, and do a clean sweep of the coaching team.
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Was hoping I was wrong , but I kinda saw that coming ,
Wallabies are improving , they had more to play for , and ours was a bit of a thrown together team ,
in a game where all the trophies are already put away ,it shouldnt matter , but subconsciously it always does when the chips are down ,
But the wallabies are better , that is undeniable , which is good for rugby
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@booboo said in BLEDISLOE 3:
What fucks me off about this was the fucking MORONIC fucking mistakes we made.
Time after fucking time after FUCKING time.
Especially when we got on attack.
Dumb
Dumb
Dumb
Had the winning of that amd blew it.
Fuck
People are going on about the errors but the stats show Australia made twice as many errors as we did. Our handling was actually quite good. We just conceded more penalties and kicked away so much ball.
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@nta said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Was tossing up earlier today whether Barrett or Retallick was the bigger loss.
It's actually hard to call but maybe Barrett squeaks it for the sake of execution.
I don't think the first half plan was necessarily wrong - pin us back, kick points when available in the wet, try to build some pressure and acute a try or two. The odd contestable kick worked well.
Just that occasionally Sopoaga didn't get it quite right, and we settled on Aaron Smith's kicks better as the game went along. And of course SBW with that.. thing at the end.
Barrett might have given some of those through kicks just a bit more venom, or taken the line on a couple more times.
Retallick. Barrett (lock) is miles below Retallick. Whereas the gap between Sopoaga and BB isn't as great. Maybe the selectors need to have a good look at Garden Bachop.
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Just watched it, and fuck me that was the dumbest most stupid attacking play I’ve seen from the ABs in a long time.
Shovelling shit ball backwards and sideways, aimless kicking, giving away really dumb penalties while on attack. And that fucking kick from Havilli when you need a try with 4 minutes to play and you’re attacking inside the 22.
What happened to the pick and go after they used it to create the space for our first try - it was unsighted again.
And just errors at crucial times killed our chances in that game.DMac’s decision making was poor at the back and really put us under pressure.
They say defence wins matches, and the physicality we defended with should have been enough to get the job done with just a little bit of smart play. But unfortunately we so so fucking clueless when we had the ball that impressive defence was neutralised.
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Of the starting 15 last night, we were probably missing at least 6 first choice players. It has probably been awhile since we have been that short? In contrast the wallaby side was near full strength?
- (Moody)
- Coles
- (Franks)
- Whitelock
- (BBBR)
- (Kaino)
- Cane
- Read
- Smith
- (BB)
- Ioane
- SBW
- Crotty?
- (Dagg/NMS)
- (Smith)
I think the game highlighted we are missing some depth at lock, 6,8,10 and the midfield just isn't clicking consistently.
This wallaby side outplayed us and deserved to win. Plenty for the coaches to think about.
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@gunner said in BLEDISLOE 3:
@chimoaus Kaino isn’t first choice, he’s been waterboy all RC.
I know what you’re saying, but no excuses, this the the All Blacks for god sakes and I expect better!
Yeah I agree however had he not had is affair I suspect he would have been challenging for a start. IMO he is still the better player.
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@gunner said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Shovelling shit ball backwards and sideways
Yes, but sometimes that shit shoveling turns into a piece of individual brilliance and a try is scored.
The ABs have tended to keep the ball alive instead of taking the traditionally safe option other teams might. Live by the sword etc
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our kicking from hand was pants...how many did Folau, thier best attacking player take without needing to take more than a few steps?
We didnt play very smart.
Not sure if mentioned, but after Folou made what I think was his first decent break with that nice off-load, the next ruck, you see an AB player get cleaned out and both is feet were vertical way over his head as he went down, thought we'd see a bit more of that, but nothing was made of it at all.
Thought Barnes was shit, he missed a good chunk of knock ons and er, flat passes, was one at a pivotal point where Genia picked it at the back of the ruck, bobbled it and regathered it off the back of one of his players right in front of him.
Our attack looked very BLackadderish....
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was that the first time they have run Cane 80?
The impact of our subs this year has been poor, in fact you could say been a negative of our game.
Last night 2 moments stand out, Pat T dropped one cold in the 22, and then that dumb shoulder of Ofa, one as we were building, the other with a great counter opportunity.
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Overall disappointing result for ABS some needed to stand up and didn't. Wallabies have been building but did the game mean much?? that added motivation that counts for 1-2% that is the difference between winning and losing international matches the ABs just didn't have it.
With a full strength Wallabies and All Blacks missing a few players it took the wallabies till the 80th to secure the game and heading into the next couple of years I still worry for them. They have relied too much on Genia (who has been awesome) Beal, Kepu, TPN, Hooper etc, these players are being played for 80 minutes every week as they have to with no other options. I fear they will be played out of form and burnt out when 2019 comes around.
For ABS Lacked 'firepower' or xfactor. in forwards only Read and backs SBW and Naholo looked likely tonight. I know players out but Coles and Whitelock in forwards have not provided the big moments as they have in past (although still great players.) Crotty and especially Sopoaga then McKenzie when moved to 10 did not direct us around at all.
Overall I though our D was good but our attack lacked spark and hardly ever looked dangerous. I think ABs are playing more reserved overall after being scared by linespeed that NH teams have brought, looking less likely, especially in wet conditions. -
