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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

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    You can see that old Tarly is conflicted. A sworn bannerman to the Tyrell's yet the Tyrell's are, according to Cersei at least, in open rebellion.

    Now that's one thing I'm confused about... Given what happened when Cersei blew up the Great Sept of Baelor she killed many including the heirs of house Tyrell. But Lady Olenna wasn't present as she had been warned by her granddaughter Margaery.

    So now, how exactly is that meant to be considered in open rebellion against the Iron Throne? Cersei has been banging on now for two episodes about the Tyrells and Dorn yet they haven't really done anything wrong as yet... well maybe not being blown up into ash counts in Cersei's eyes.

    Sure, they have/are aligning themselves with Dany but technically, that doesn't mean rebellion as Dany has not yet made any threats or taken any actions against Cersei, that I can recall. Which all hardly constitutes "open rebellion".

    I did like how old Tarly referred to Cersei's way of dealing with those she doesn't like.

    So which way old man Tarly goes will be interesting to watch as I think he'll originally side with the Iron Throne but switch allegiances to Dany after being convinced by Samwel who will finally win his father's love he so desperately craves for 😉

    Just read that G. R. R. Martin has now said (maybe) sometime in 2018 for The Winds of Winter and according to a recent blog entry, there may also be a second book in 2018.

    From the Guardian website
    "(He George R. R. Martin has been) telling readers that his story Sons of the Dragon, set in the Westeros universe, would be included in the new anthology The Book of Swords, coming out in October, Martin also revealed that he was planning two volumes of his “fake histories” of the Targaryen kings, from the Game of Thrones universe. These will be called Fire and Blood.

    “The first of those will cover the history of Westeros from Aegon’s Conquest up to and through the regency of the boy king Aegon III (the Dragonbane). That one is largely written, and will include (for the first time) a complete detailed history of the Targaryen civil war, the Dance of the Dragons,” wrote Martin.

    The first volume of Fire and Blood is planned for late 2018 or early 2019, while the second, “which will carry the history from Aegon III up to Robert’s Rebellion, is largely unwritten, so that one will be a few more years in coming,” wrote Martin.

    “Whether Winds or the first volume of Fire and Blood will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018 … and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream,” he added."

    So fingers crossed but holding my breath I will not be.

    I wish he'd concentrate on one thing at a time.

    One thing I don't get is how Cercei managed to become Queen. She only married into the Baratheon family and wouldn't have been heir. Even with the Baratheon brothers dead there must be other relatives with a claim. It should also be noted that she not only decimated the Tyrells but also the leading Lannister (Kevan). So she's killed a very popular queen as well as the heads of two great houses. She also blew up a holy place and its leaders. Who the hell is going to support, let alone accept her claim?

    I think it is more who is going to stop her. I agree with the person below (can't be arsed to look again - too lazy) that reckons it will be the lover that's a brother.

    Iirc the Tyrell army was in Kings Landing. So there are the Tyrell bannermen plus the Kevan loyalists, plus the people. Remember that Jamie wasn't even there when she was crowned so it fucks me how she could do it.

    Well leaving aside that logic is somewhat absent in GOT (ie Euron's magical ship building), I would say two words.

    Mountain.
    The.

    More logically though was Tarley's comments about knowing what she does to those that go against her.

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    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @RoninWC said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel
    You can see that old Tarly is conflicted. A sworn bannerman to the Tyrell's yet the Tyrell's are, according to Cersei at least, in open rebellion.

    Now that's one thing I'm confused about... Given what happened when Cersei blew up the Great Sept of Baelor she killed many including the heirs of house Tyrell. But Lady Olenna wasn't present as she had been warned by her granddaughter Margaery.

    So now, how exactly is that meant to be considered in open rebellion against the Iron Throne? Cersei has been banging on now for two episodes about the Tyrells and Dorn yet they haven't really done anything wrong as yet... well maybe not being blown up into ash counts in Cersei's eyes.

    Sure, they have/are aligning themselves with Dany but technically, that doesn't mean rebellion as Dany has not yet made any threats or taken any actions against Cersei, that I can recall. Which all hardly constitutes "open rebellion".

    I did like how old Tarly referred to Cersei's way of dealing with those she doesn't like.

    So which way old man Tarly goes will be interesting to watch as I think he'll originally side with the Iron Throne but switch allegiances to Dany after being convinced by Samwel who will finally win his father's love he so desperately craves for 😉

    Just read that G. R. R. Martin has now said (maybe) sometime in 2018 for The Winds of Winter and according to a recent blog entry, there may also be a second book in 2018.

    From the Guardian website
    "(He George R. R. Martin has been) telling readers that his story Sons of the Dragon, set in the Westeros universe, would be included in the new anthology The Book of Swords, coming out in October, Martin also revealed that he was planning two volumes of his “fake histories” of the Targaryen kings, from the Game of Thrones universe. These will be called Fire and Blood.

    “The first of those will cover the history of Westeros from Aegon’s Conquest up to and through the regency of the boy king Aegon III (the Dragonbane). That one is largely written, and will include (for the first time) a complete detailed history of the Targaryen civil war, the Dance of the Dragons,” wrote Martin.

    The first volume of Fire and Blood is planned for late 2018 or early 2019, while the second, “which will carry the history from Aegon III up to Robert’s Rebellion, is largely unwritten, so that one will be a few more years in coming,” wrote Martin.

    “Whether Winds or the first volume of Fire and Blood will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018 … and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream,” he added."

    So fingers crossed but holding my breath I will not be.

    I wish he'd concentrate on one thing at a time.

    One thing I don't get is how Cercei managed to become Queen. She only married into the Baratheon family and wouldn't have been heir. Even with the Baratheon brothers dead there must be other relatives with a claim. It should also be noted that she not only decimated the Tyrells but also the leading Lannister (Kevan). So she's killed a very popular queen as well as the heads of two great houses. She also blew up a holy place and its leaders. Who the hell is going to support, let alone accept her claim?

    I think it is more who is going to stop her. I agree with the person below (can't be arsed to look again - too lazy) that reckons it will be the lover that's a brother.

    Iirc the Tyrell army was in Kings Landing. So there are the Tyrell bannermen plus the Kevan loyalists, plus the people. Remember that Jamie wasn't even there when she was crowned so it fucks me how she could do it.

    Well leaving aside that logic is somewhat absent in GOT (ie Euron's magical ship building), I would say two words.

    Mountain.
    The.

    More logically though was Tarley's comments about knowing what she does to those that go against her.

    My original thought also. You could rewrite the question as:
    "It should also be noted that she not only decimated the Tyrells but also the leading Lannister (Kevan). So she's killed a very popular queen as well as the heads of two great houses. She also blew up a holy place and its leaders."
    She also has a big fuck-off zombie knight.
    Who's going to argue?

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    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @RoninWC said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel
    You can see that old Tarly is conflicted. A sworn bannerman to the Tyrell's yet the Tyrell's are, according to Cersei at least, in open rebellion.

    Now that's one thing I'm confused about... Given what happened when Cersei blew up the Great Sept of Baelor she killed many including the heirs of house Tyrell. But Lady Olenna wasn't present as she had been warned by her granddaughter Margaery.

    So now, how exactly is that meant to be considered in open rebellion against the Iron Throne? Cersei has been banging on now for two episodes about the Tyrells and Dorn yet they haven't really done anything wrong as yet... well maybe not being blown up into ash counts in Cersei's eyes.

    Sure, they have/are aligning themselves with Dany but technically, that doesn't mean rebellion as Dany has not yet made any threats or taken any actions against Cersei, that I can recall. Which all hardly constitutes "open rebellion".

    I did like how old Tarly referred to Cersei's way of dealing with those she doesn't like.

    So which way old man Tarly goes will be interesting to watch as I think he'll originally side with the Iron Throne but switch allegiances to Dany after being convinced by Samwel who will finally win his father's love he so desperately craves for 😉

    Just read that G. R. R. Martin has now said (maybe) sometime in 2018 for The Winds of Winter and according to a recent blog entry, there may also be a second book in 2018.

    From the Guardian website
    "(He George R. R. Martin has been) telling readers that his story Sons of the Dragon, set in the Westeros universe, would be included in the new anthology The Book of Swords, coming out in October, Martin also revealed that he was planning two volumes of his “fake histories” of the Targaryen kings, from the Game of Thrones universe. These will be called Fire and Blood.

    “The first of those will cover the history of Westeros from Aegon’s Conquest up to and through the regency of the boy king Aegon III (the Dragonbane). That one is largely written, and will include (for the first time) a complete detailed history of the Targaryen civil war, the Dance of the Dragons,” wrote Martin.

    The first volume of Fire and Blood is planned for late 2018 or early 2019, while the second, “which will carry the history from Aegon III up to Robert’s Rebellion, is largely unwritten, so that one will be a few more years in coming,” wrote Martin.

    “Whether Winds or the first volume of Fire and Blood will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018 … and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream,” he added."

    So fingers crossed but holding my breath I will not be.

    I wish he'd concentrate on one thing at a time.

    One thing I don't get is how Cercei managed to become Queen. She only married into the Baratheon family and wouldn't have been heir. Even with the Baratheon brothers dead there must be other relatives with a claim. It should also be noted that she not only decimated the Tyrells but also the leading Lannister (Kevan). So she's killed a very popular queen as well as the heads of two great houses. She also blew up a holy place and its leaders. Who the hell is going to support, let alone accept her claim?

    I think it is more who is going to stop her. I agree with the person below (can't be arsed to look again - too lazy) that reckons it will be the lover that's a brother.

    Iirc the Tyrell army was in Kings Landing. So there are the Tyrell bannermen plus the Kevan loyalists, plus the people. Remember that Jamie wasn't even there when she was crowned so it fucks me how she could do it.

    Well leaving aside that logic is somewhat absent in GOT (ie Euron's magical ship building), I would say two words.

    Mountain.
    The.

    More logically though was Tarley's comments about knowing what she does to those that go against her.

    As freaky as that prick is, I think she'd need more of a power base than one enormous zombie.

    It's a great series but the Transformer level plot holes are bloody annoying.

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    Mate of mine who's 6' 2" and 100kg has met the actor who plays Gregor, who's 6' 9" and 190kg. Mate says he felt totally belittled. Has a photo, which makes him look like an 11 year old in comparison.

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    @pakman yea plenty of clips of him doing Stuff on YouTube and he is mahussive

    He also did play fight thing with Connor McGregor too I think.

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    @pakman said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Mate of mine who's 6' 2" and 100kg has met the actor who plays Gregor, who's 6' 9" and 190kg. Mate says he felt totally belittled. Has a photo, which makes him look like an 11 year old in comparison.

    Yeah he's pretty big

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    @pakman said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Mate of mine who's 6' 2" and 100kg has met the actor who plays Gregor, who's 6' 9" and 190kg. Mate says he felt totally belittled. Has a photo, which makes him look like an 11 year old in comparison.

    That's about Ardie Savea size. Massive.

    The Mountain actor can also deadlift over 4 hundy kg. That's solid.

    I do wonder if we're gonna see a Clegane battle at some stage. Hard to see the Hound beating his big bro ( with an actor who is 15 or so years younger )

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    @MN5 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @pakman said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Mate of mine who's 6' 2" and 100kg has met the actor who plays Gregor, who's 6' 9" and 190kg. Mate says he felt totally belittled. Has a photo, which makes him look like an 11 year old in comparison.

    I do wonder if we're gonna see a Clegane battle at some stage. Hard to see the Hound beating his big bro ( with an actor who is 15 or so years younger )

    Even though the Mountain now moves like a rusty robot?

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    @Virgil said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @pakman said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Mate of mine who's 6' 2" and 100kg has met the actor who plays Gregor, who's 6' 9" and 190kg. Mate says he felt totally belittled. Has a photo, which makes him look like an 11 year old in comparison.

    Yeah he's pretty big

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    That's a bastard big sword too - almost as tall as the slightly "differently" sexy Lena.

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    @Crucial said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @MN5 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @pakman said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Mate of mine who's 6' 2" and 100kg has met the actor who plays Gregor, who's 6' 9" and 190kg. Mate says he felt totally belittled. Has a photo, which makes him look like an 11 year old in comparison.

    I do wonder if we're gonna see a Clegane battle at some stage. Hard to see the Hound beating his big bro ( with an actor who is 15 or so years younger )

    Even though the Mountain now moves like a rusty robot?

    I don't think he was ever particularly nimble.

    In saying that....I can't wait to see the undead giants in action.

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    @MN5 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Crucial said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @MN5 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @pakman said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Mate of mine who's 6' 2" and 100kg has met the actor who plays Gregor, who's 6' 9" and 190kg. Mate says he felt totally belittled. Has a photo, which makes him look like an 11 year old in comparison.

    I do wonder if we're gonna see a Clegane battle at some stage. Hard to see the Hound beating his big bro ( with an actor who is 15 or so years younger )

    Even though the Mountain now moves like a rusty robot?

    I don't think he was ever particularly nimble.

    In saying that....I can't wait to see the undead giants in action.

    He was nimble in his professional basketball days. Talk about the wonders of modern alchemy: http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/679040/Game-of-Thrones-season-6-The-Mountain-Haf-r-J-l-us-Bj-rnsson

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    @MN5 MOuntain is pretty much an undead giant...

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    @Catogrande what the fuck is differently sexy?

    She's just plain old hot as fuck. 300 for the win!

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    @mariner4life Yep, hot all right but describe how. These days, good looking without being actually beautiful, nice body but not up there with say Missande and yet, and yet.

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    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @mariner4life Yep, hot all right but describe how. These days, good looking without being actually beautiful, nice body but not up there with say Missande and yet, and yet.

    She is very hot. Missande isn't hot. We have been over this. Missande looks like she is getting a permanent static shock.

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    I just think a lot of you geezers have a chubby for her because you like a girl that clearly had no issue getting with guys with no tackle.

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @mariner4life Yep, hot all right but describe how. These days, good looking without being actually beautiful, nice body but not up there with say Missande and yet, and yet.

    She is very hot. Missande isn't hot. We have been over this. Missande looks like she is getting a permanent static shock.

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    I just think a lot of you geezers have a chubby for her because you like a girl that clearly had no issue getting with guys with no tackle.

    Yep I know what you mean. Missande has a truly great bod but I would not climb over Cersei to get to her.

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback BTW that last post is not to suggest that either is actually an option.

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    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback BTW that last post is not to suggest that either is actually an option.

    Sounds like you prenup was badly drafted!

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    @Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback BTW that last post is not to suggest that either is actually an option.

    I know what you mean. The two of them are so busy, trying to coordinate them being available at the same time is a nightmare. So far the threesome option eludes me.

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    @MN5 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

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    @MN5 said in GOT - there will be spoilers!:

    Holy fucken shit, what an EPISODE!!!!

    ....is what I hope I'll be saying after watching it. The other half is out so I can't see it until she is back after 8.

    My relationship or GOT? Shit its a tough one..

    Watched it while eating lunch.

    Good episode. Not much action and not even a hint of tit but setting the stage for a cracker of a series.

    Makes me hanker even more for the new book. It will be completely different to the series. Hurry up you fat deviant.

    All I'll say is Giant White Walkers. How awesome do they look?

    Some folk are gonna get their asses kicked.

    They're not White Walkers, they're wights.

    Wights are the undead zombies (giant or otherwise) that the White Walkers can resurrect, but they're not White Walkers themselves - they can be killed with conventional weapons rather than just dragonglass / Valeryian steel, etc

    #nerdalert

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