All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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@Canerbry said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Rancid bait.
He's right. When i first saw him in black i thought he would go on to be a great. But he never really kicked on, and wasn't even first choice by the end. Sort of blends in to the plethora of no more than decent 12s between Little and the good Nonu
Probably suffers from such high expectations, and good early form.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Canerbry said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@nzzp you'd rate Toeava's "impact" over Guidford?
At the professional level, every day of the week and twice on sunday.
Toeava played 35 tests for the ABs; Guildford 11.
Guildford's self destructed. We still miss Isiah. He was a hell of a player, with untapped potential
I wonder if Davidav still reads this forum , out there somewhere ?
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@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Canerbry said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@nzzp you'd rate Toeava's "impact" over Guidford?
I would
As would I, and Guildford's a Magpie, although sullied by the fact he also played for the Crusaders and Tahs ... in fact we can probably disregard my thoughts in that case.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Don't forget that Mauger carried Umaga.
I actually think they complimented each other pretty well , each sort of provided what the other lacked ,
And funny enough , when Umaga retired , Mauger seem to slide out of favor ,
Probably form as well but he didnt seem as appealing when paired with Conrad or Mils as he did with Tana IMO .
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Don't forget that Mauger carried Umaga.
I actually think they complimented each other pretty well , each sort of provided what the other lacked ,
And funny enough , when Umaga retired , Mauger seem to slide out of favor ,
Probably form as well but he didnt seem as appealing when paired with Conrad or Mils as he did with Tana IMO .
It was an interesting time when Henry came in. Mauger had a knee injury and that first series Henry went with Carter and Umaga.
Henry tried a heap of different midfield combinations from 2004-2007. Some of the ones I recall are:
Carter/Umaga
Tuitupo/Umaga
Mauger/Umaga
Umaga/Smith
Mauger/Smith
Umaga/Nonu
Mauger/Nonu
Mauger/Gear
Luke/Smith
Luke/Nonu
Luke/Mils
Mauger/Luke
Mauger/Toeava
Luke/Toeava
Nonu/Smith -
An I the only one who thinks we will pump them?
We did in the first test, and then if not for a dodgy penalty, and a try with more obstruction then an Enron lawyer we nearly beat them with 14.
I feel more confident for this match then most others it seems.
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@mooshld said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
An I the only one who thinks we will pump them?
We did in the first test, and then if not for a dodgy penalty, and a try with more obstruction then an Enron lawyer we nearly beat them with 14.
I feel more confident for this match then most others it seems.
SSSHHHHH!!!! We don't want to appear arrogant....
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@mooshld said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
An I the only one who thinks we will pump them?
We did in the first test, and then if not for a dodgy penalty, and a try with more obstruction then an Enron lawyer we nearly beat them with 14.
I feel more confident for this match then most others it seems.
I'm having wild mood swings between arrogant "yep, we'll pump them", and "fuck I'm worried, and if we lose I'm leaving town". Zero middle ground.
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This is the 7th Lions v ABs series I've watched ('66, '71, '77, '83, '93, '05, '17) and I think this is probably the tightest my sphincter has been since the 4th test match in 1971. My ticker might not be able to handle this one. I get anxiety attacks even opening this bloody thread. If I don't have a paramedic on standby I might have to go into an isolation tank until the game is over and then look for the result. I thought this was supposed to be fun?!
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Don't forget that Mauger carried Umaga.
I actually think they complimented each other pretty well , each sort of provided what the other lacked ,
And funny enough , when Umaga retired , Mauger seem to slide out of favor ,
Probably form as well but he didnt seem as appealing when paired with Conrad or Mils as he did with Tana IMO .
It was an interesting time when Henry came in. Mauger had a knee injury and that first series Henry went with Carter and Umaga.
Henry tried a heap of different midfield combinations from 2004-2007. Some of the ones I recall are:
Carter/Umaga
Tuitupo/Umaga
Mauger/Umaga
Umaga/Smith
Mauger/Smith
Umaga/Nonu
Mauger/Nonu
Mauger/Gear
Luke/Smith
Luke/Nonu
Luke/Mils
Mauger/Luke
Mauger/Toeava
Luke/Toeava
Nonu/SmithYeah I think we had 20 plus consecutive games without playing the same combo consecutively
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I just remember him as decidely underwhelming. Probably biased by the 2007 quarter final.
He did as much in his 9 minutes as could be expected.
TBH, my memories of that game are watching it in a bar in Cork, with a sense of impending dread, while the Irish crowd was increasingly enjoying the spectacle.
I've never watched the game again...so maybe Toeava was just fine in those 9 minutes as you say...
he had his moments in his career , but would be a bit rough to point the finger at him in this game though, he was the least of our problems TBH .
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Whilst I am unhappy we lost the 2nd test it is hard to beat the anxiety and anticipation for this deciding test. Probably the first time in a long time I am not super confident in the end result. Can't wait.
I was unhappy at the Full Time whistle but that feeling had gone by the next day. This really is as good as the World Cup and the only true tour left and I found myself happy for all the Fans that have travelled so far.
I would be gutted to lose the series but the Lions are pretty much the only team I can 'handle' a loss to
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@pakman Not sure. It is posted by a journo called Seti Afoa and he has the entire PCs of not just the coaches, but also the players on his youtube page. The full PCs from yesterday of Gatland and Sam, Beaudie and Jordie and Faumaina and Cane have also been uploaded. It's worth subscribing to.
