All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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Assuming Crotty and Smith are out, I'll go into the second test with
15 - Dagg
14 - Naholo (he was good under the bombs against the Lions)
13 - ALB
12 - SBW
11 - Ioane
10 - Barrett
9 - Smith
Same forwardsNathan Harris was very quiet when he came in and missed a LO throw. I wonder why Coltman was not selected : he is much more physical in the tight and his throwing has improved a lot lately.
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@Canerbry said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in
Tell us what you really think aftet watching a single one of Goodhues games, Grant Fox.
Caners!
Like some sort of ghoul appears at the meer hint of disrispict of a Crusader (eve n one from Northland).
Even manages a crack at Foxy even if he's one of the blokes picking the Cantab.
Classic Fern
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
For the Lions i thought their tight 5 were very disappointing. Loosies were excellent but shaded by us just. Murray's kicking was excellent in to the wind, but too long with it. Farrell ordinary (wonder how his ribs are today?) Maybe a better 12 now? 12-out were all very good.
Not the impact from the bench i expected.
In terms of changes, get Lawes in. Maybe start Itoje. But i think the personnel are right, just finish your opportunities!
I have no idea about the state of Lawes's head but I have serious qualms about rushing him back in after two heavy knocks in two weeks.
But if I were the Lions and he is fully fit he starts.
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Whilst the Lions' first try was awesome I think Ioane's first was a thing of absolute beauty. Rugby at it's finest.
Forwards smash a scrum. Get great forward momentum. Backs beautifully work the space and put the winger in at the corner.
Classic rugby.
Maybe it's a forward thing.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Wait...wreck diver is the one that lost it's marbles during the week right? Yeah Aso is way better...at letting the opportunity waltz through.
Like Booboo I was a bit perturbed at no yellow card for repeat infringements. Imagine the moan fest if that penalty tally was reversed.
Don't think that was me ...
... but I do agree
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@SimonAdd_2 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Well done New Zealand, fantastic display of up-the guts rugby. Direct through the middle with some lovely smuggling of the ball to support runners to keep the momentum going. The Lions made so many tackles and never got the chance to get their line speed going.
For the men in red, they created some good chances but just failed to take them. The worrying thing is that I'm not sure where they can go selection-wise; most of the contentious calls were probably the correct ones, and most of the subs, particularly in the backs, weakened the side in the second half rather than providing impact.
For next week I'd probably keep the back line as it was, maybe add North to the bench in place of Halfpenny. The tight five needs to improve - I'd swap AWJ for Itoje. I'd also be really tempted to start Sinkler: Furlong looked like a force of nature back in November but he's been subdued on this tour. Sinkler by contrast seems to make metres with every carry, and more surprisingly the scrum has looked rock solid with him anchoring it. Give the boy a shot.
The back row went well although Faletau was a bit quiet compared to previous performances. O'Mahony looked injured coming off - if that's the case you'd assume it's Warburton into the starting XV and Stander to the bench, which might again add some more pop in the second half.
Leaving aside injury-forced replacements, I can see Gatland saying let's roll the dice again and hope for a different outcome.
You're spot on about Furlong. He's fatigued at this stage and looks it. Sinckler and Cole for the next test. I'd also include Best on the bench as he's a lot better in the loose. AW Jones has had his shot. Lawes and Henderson need to come into the mix. If POM is injured, then yeah, Warburton and Stander.
Murray and Webb as you were.
Sexton is not a bench impact player - he either starts or else bring in Biggar and drop Sexton. I'm not sold on Farrell at 10, however. I'm not sold on Te'o and Davies either as a combo. Joseph needs a start to see if his speed and strike rate can improve our attack.
Back three as you were.
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Went to the game, great atmosphere
Apart from several piston wristed gibbons in front of us who were "there to watch the game and didn't want to listen to us shouting behind them"
Fucking hell, watch it on tv at home if you don't like it dickheads. Supporting your team is why you go to things like this
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
What will the NH press complain about?
Pumpkin soup?
No. All of the usual - summed up as the Lions weren't good enough and got monstered in the scrums, and didn't convert their chances.
It's not that difficult to work out.
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@SammyC said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Went to the game, great atmosphere
Apart from several piston wristed gibbons in front of us who were "there to watch the game and didn't want to listen to us shouting behind them"
Fucking hell, watch it on tv at home if you don't like it dickheads. Supporting your team is why you go to things like this
Seriously? Dicks.
What age?
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@SammyC said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Went to the game, great atmosphere
Apart from several piston wristed gibbons in front of us who were "there to watch the game and didn't want to listen to us shouting behind them"
Fucking hell, watch it on tv at home if you don't like it dickheads. Supporting your team is why you go to things like this
Seriously? Dicks.
What age?
Probably 20s/30s. There's always some young gobshites shouting their heads off whilst everyone is trying to watch the game. They should probably just go to the pub and shout there....
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@Pot-Hale love your work
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
What will the NH press complain about?
Pumpkin soup?
Sounds like a Southland night in.
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@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@SimonAdd_2 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Well done New Zealand, fantastic display of up-the guts rugby. Direct through the middle with some lovely smuggling of the ball to support runners to keep the momentum going. The Lions made so many tackles and never got the chance to get their line speed going.
For the men in red, they created some good chances but just failed to take them. The worrying thing is that I'm not sure where they can go selection-wise; most of the contentious calls were probably the correct ones, and most of the subs, particularly in the backs, weakened the side in the second half rather than providing impact.
For next week I'd probably keep the back line as it was, maybe add North to the bench in place of Halfpenny. The tight five needs to improve - I'd swap AWJ for Itoje. I'd also be really tempted to start Sinkler: Furlong looked like a force of nature back in November but he's been subdued on this tour. Sinkler by contrast seems to make metres with every carry, and more surprisingly the scrum has looked rock solid with him anchoring it. Give the boy a shot.
The back row went well although Faletau was a bit quiet compared to previous performances. O'Mahony looked injured coming off - if that's the case you'd assume it's Warburton into the starting XV and Stander to the bench, which might again add some more pop in the second half.
Leaving aside injury-forced replacements, I can see Gatland saying let's roll the dice again and hope for a different outcome.
You're spot on about Furlong. He's fatigued at this stage and looks it. Sinckler and Cole for the next test. I'd also include Best on the bench as he's a lot better in the loose. AW Jones has had his shot. Lawes and Henderson need to come into the mix. If POM is injured, then yeah, Warburton and Stander.
Murray and Webb as you were.
Sexton is not a bench impact player - he either starts or else bring in Biggar and drop Sexton. I'm not sold on Farrell at 10, however. I'm not sold on Te'o and Davies either as a combo. Joseph needs a start to see if his speed and strike rate can improve our attack.
Back three as you were.
Pretty much agree PH. Farrell didn't have his best game but then gain I don't think things were improved with Sexton at 10. I can't see past Teo at 12 at the moment as Gatland has nailed his big hunter at 12 colours to the mast - Sexton and Farrell hasn't gelled and to be honest hasn't been given the chance. Whilst I would like to see Joseph at 13, I thought Davies had a bloody good game, so difficult to drop.
Moving away from selection, i tell what did have me spitting blood at the time. We had a penalty and Sexton put us right on the 5 metre line and.... we change hooker. FFS George was pretty much 100%. not the time to bring on a replacement. Grrr.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Whilst the Lions' first try was awesome I think Ioane's first was a thing of absolute beauty. Rugby at it's finest.
Forwards smash a scrum. Get great forward momentum. Backs beautifully work the space and put the winger in at the corner.
Classic rugby.
Maybe it's a forward thing.
That was wet dream territory. Smash the scrum, walk it until they infringe, but use the penalty advantage to work an excellent try to the debutant who at that stage had barely touched the ball. Rather than the 3 points.
Only downside being no penalty awarded means the yellow card mental trigger inside refs head for persistent infringing is not ticked over .....,,
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@SammyC said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Went to the game, great atmosphere
Apart from several piston wristed gibbons in front of us who were "there to watch the game and didn't want to listen to us shouting behind them"
Fucking hell, watch it on tv at home if you don't like it dickheads. Supporting your team is why you go to things like this
Seriously? Dicks.
What age?
Utter dickheads, 30-40ish... in the cheap seats too, what the hell were they thinking it was going to be like
I'm reading terry mcleans book about the 1977 lions tour at the moment. Sounds like kiwi crowds back then were ruthless as hell. Definitely a whole lot worse than me and my mates were last night
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@Catogrande have to think the call is made already and the change has to be made, but otherwise common sense says you dont send your hooker on with first touch of the ball is a throw to the lineout.
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@Catogrande said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
What will the NH press complain about?
Pumpkin soup?
Sounds like a Southland night in.
Not enough incest
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Catogrande have to think the call is made already and the change has to be made, but otherwise common sense says you dont send your hooker on with first touch of the ball is a throw to the lineout.
Really? He's a pro.
He can only come on at a stoppage, which is pretty much either a scrum or a lineout.
