All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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Wait...wreck diver is the one that lost it's marbles during the week right? Yeah Aso is way better...at letting the opportunity waltz through.
Like Booboo I was a bit perturbed at no yellow card for repeat infringements. Imagine the moan fest if that penalty tally was reversed.
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@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Billy-Tell mate I'm sorry but the both Canes centres are better than Goodhue. He was pants against the Lions. In my option I think there are better centres in NZ. He's walking into the AB's on the back of a good Saders pack. So would you start him next week?
Goodhue was outstanding against the Lions. Crusaders best player. One of the very few franchise players to enhance their reputations (apart from some frontrowers) in the tour games.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim Charlie Faumuina, baby. Most underrated player in NZ.
Dunno if he is under rated at all, most seem pretty gutted he is off overseas!
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Haven't read the thread yet.
Williams had some good moments and credit to his defence, but hold onto the fucken ball you numbnuts. Put severe pressure on the ABs with turnovers at times.
Cruden was pretty lacklustre.
A Smith was there for his passing - really disappointing to see him completely wreck a couple of crucial opportunities with super shit passing.
ALB looked quite lost at times.
Locks and loosies were brilliant.
Taylor needs to sort his throwing, those were 2 big lineouts before he got yanked.
Peyper with some odd calls around the tackle. What the fuck was that when McGrath is crawling along the ground after being tackled twice and then the ABs get penalised? Otherwise well reffed.
I wonder if the NH media will stop with the rubbish around scrum dominance now?
Overall, thought the ABs played pretty ordinary, which is comforting - we can improve a lot.
Fuck. No wonder we lost ... oh hang on ...
BTW your glass is the half empty one over there ...
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A dedicated post on the ref.
I thought Peyper was outstanding.That's exactly the sort of game that doesn't get me reaching for the 'grind my gears/airport/flat' thread.
Policed the offside line. This is the cardinal rule of rugby, of all the minutiae that ref and rules can swamped under, just make sue this is policed.
I liked the lineout drive/maul defence interpretations. The catcher/ball carrier was allowed to be sacked. Yet both teams conceddd a penalty each if the sack was too late and we had morphed into collapsed maul territory. But, I'm not going to pretend I know the rules of the untouchable maul anymore, but I liked it.
I'm not one of those fans who see offences at every phase. Im generally watching the ball etc, not what angle a player I have a grudge against enters any breakdown etc ( liking at you Phil Kearns).
In my biased viewings. The times I was calling for pens .......
- there was a stage early in second half where he wasn't policing the offside line like he was in the first half, several phases with the Lions offside.
- there were a few times when Lions slowing down the halfback by a lazy roll away went unpunished. Sometimes standing at the back of our ruck. Eg the most blatant was the phase before Cruden's woeful kick for the Lions try from the end of the world. I would have whostled that advantage over as soon as Read got stepped
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Well done New Zealand, fantastic display of up-the guts rugby. Direct through the middle with some lovely smuggling of the ball to support runners to keep the momentum going. The Lions made so many tackles and never got the chance to get their line speed going.
For the men in red, they created some good chances but just failed to take them. The worrying thing is that I'm not sure where they can go selection-wise; most of the contentious calls were probably the correct ones, and most of the subs, particularly in the backs, weakened the side in the second half rather than providing impact.
For next week I'd probably keep the back line as it was, maybe add North to the bench in place of Halfpenny. The tight five needs to improve - I'd swap AWJ for Itoje. I'd also be really tempted to start Sinkler: Furlong looked like a force of nature back in November but he's been subdued on this tour. Sinkler by contrast seems to make metres with every carry, and more surprisingly the scrum has looked rock solid with him anchoring it. Give the boy a shot.
The back row went well although Faletau was a bit quiet compared to previous performances. O'Mahony looked injured coming off - if that's the case you'd assume it's Warburton into the starting XV and Stander to the bench, which might again add some more pop in the second half.
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Assuming Crotty and Smith are out, I'll go into the second test with
15 - Dagg
14 - Naholo (he was good under the bombs against the Lions)
13 - ALB
12 - SBW
11 - Ioane
10 - Barrett
9 - Smith
Same forwardsNathan Harris was very quiet when he came in and missed a LO throw. I wonder why Coltman was not selected : he is much more physical in the tight and his throwing has improved a lot lately.
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@Canerbry said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in
Tell us what you really think aftet watching a single one of Goodhues games, Grant Fox.
Caners!
Like some sort of ghoul appears at the meer hint of disrispict of a Crusader (eve n one from Northland).
Even manages a crack at Foxy even if he's one of the blokes picking the Cantab.
Classic Fern
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
For the Lions i thought their tight 5 were very disappointing. Loosies were excellent but shaded by us just. Murray's kicking was excellent in to the wind, but too long with it. Farrell ordinary (wonder how his ribs are today?) Maybe a better 12 now? 12-out were all very good.
Not the impact from the bench i expected.
In terms of changes, get Lawes in. Maybe start Itoje. But i think the personnel are right, just finish your opportunities!
I have no idea about the state of Lawes's head but I have serious qualms about rushing him back in after two heavy knocks in two weeks.
But if I were the Lions and he is fully fit he starts.
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Whilst the Lions' first try was awesome I think Ioane's first was a thing of absolute beauty. Rugby at it's finest.
Forwards smash a scrum. Get great forward momentum. Backs beautifully work the space and put the winger in at the corner.
Classic rugby.
Maybe it's a forward thing.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Wait...wreck diver is the one that lost it's marbles during the week right? Yeah Aso is way better...at letting the opportunity waltz through.
Like Booboo I was a bit perturbed at no yellow card for repeat infringements. Imagine the moan fest if that penalty tally was reversed.
Don't think that was me ...
... but I do agree
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@SimonAdd_2 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Well done New Zealand, fantastic display of up-the guts rugby. Direct through the middle with some lovely smuggling of the ball to support runners to keep the momentum going. The Lions made so many tackles and never got the chance to get their line speed going.
For the men in red, they created some good chances but just failed to take them. The worrying thing is that I'm not sure where they can go selection-wise; most of the contentious calls were probably the correct ones, and most of the subs, particularly in the backs, weakened the side in the second half rather than providing impact.
For next week I'd probably keep the back line as it was, maybe add North to the bench in place of Halfpenny. The tight five needs to improve - I'd swap AWJ for Itoje. I'd also be really tempted to start Sinkler: Furlong looked like a force of nature back in November but he's been subdued on this tour. Sinkler by contrast seems to make metres with every carry, and more surprisingly the scrum has looked rock solid with him anchoring it. Give the boy a shot.
The back row went well although Faletau was a bit quiet compared to previous performances. O'Mahony looked injured coming off - if that's the case you'd assume it's Warburton into the starting XV and Stander to the bench, which might again add some more pop in the second half.
Leaving aside injury-forced replacements, I can see Gatland saying let's roll the dice again and hope for a different outcome.
You're spot on about Furlong. He's fatigued at this stage and looks it. Sinckler and Cole for the next test. I'd also include Best on the bench as he's a lot better in the loose. AW Jones has had his shot. Lawes and Henderson need to come into the mix. If POM is injured, then yeah, Warburton and Stander.
Murray and Webb as you were.
Sexton is not a bench impact player - he either starts or else bring in Biggar and drop Sexton. I'm not sold on Farrell at 10, however. I'm not sold on Te'o and Davies either as a combo. Joseph needs a start to see if his speed and strike rate can improve our attack.
Back three as you were.
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Went to the game, great atmosphere
Apart from several piston wristed gibbons in front of us who were "there to watch the game and didn't want to listen to us shouting behind them"
Fucking hell, watch it on tv at home if you don't like it dickheads. Supporting your team is why you go to things like this
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
What will the NH press complain about?
Pumpkin soup?
No. All of the usual - summed up as the Lions weren't good enough and got monstered in the scrums, and didn't convert their chances.
It's not that difficult to work out.
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@SammyC said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Went to the game, great atmosphere
Apart from several piston wristed gibbons in front of us who were "there to watch the game and didn't want to listen to us shouting behind them"
Fucking hell, watch it on tv at home if you don't like it dickheads. Supporting your team is why you go to things like this
Seriously? Dicks.
What age?
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@SammyC said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Went to the game, great atmosphere
Apart from several piston wristed gibbons in front of us who were "there to watch the game and didn't want to listen to us shouting behind them"
Fucking hell, watch it on tv at home if you don't like it dickheads. Supporting your team is why you go to things like this
Seriously? Dicks.
What age?
Probably 20s/30s. There's always some young gobshites shouting their heads off whilst everyone is trying to watch the game. They should probably just go to the pub and shout there....
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