All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones Start TJP next week?
Dagg to fullback I guess, or do they go for Jordie?
Ioane and Naholo the wings? Or does Savea come back?
I wouldn't be surprised if they bring Jordie in. The two fullbacks is an important part of our gameplan.
We did lose our shape when Cruden came on to 1st 5. He got a little better later in the 2nd half. But I'm not the biggest fan of moving Barrett from 1st 5. He's currently our best 1st 5 so should play 80 there if he's fit.
I think you're all going overboard on Cruden - he seems to be the new Fern piñata no matter what he does. We lost shape for a number of reasons, and we were already losing shape when BB was still at 10. Also, I said earlier in the thread that BB did a couple of dud kicks when it was at least 3 one which was a similar chip kick as Cruden's that went straight back of a Lion.
When the ABs pulled away in the second half Cruden was steering the ship from 10 and if you look at the good attacking play he was one of the key guys moving the ball into space.
I don't know why he was taking the line kicks though, I would have thought Barrett would have kept that job.
I'm surprised we don't use Dagg. He must have the longest boot - I guess not the most accurate? That missed touch was a killer though - plus the shitty dinky kick that lead to the Lions try. Apart from that, Cruden was Ok, but he wasn't especially dangerous.
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@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in
Where has this come from? I think you'd be the only person who doesn't rate Goodhue. How is Malakai anyway, Mrs Fekitoa?
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@Canerbry Next you going to tell us the R Thorne was one of the greats
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Goodhue is a very classy player but obviously very young so I'd be nervous about him starting, though obviously he'd be a bench option at best.
Crotty is a massive loss, SBW/ALB is great on attack but they are a bit disorganised on defense at times.
Personally I'd prefer those two starting with Fekitoa on the bench to come on late and smack Lions backwards.
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@Wreck-Diver next you'll be telling us he wasn't. Have another Hallertau and go to sleep.
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Ioane could be tested with the 13 jersey ... during the RC. He played there for the Blues in the early rounds of SR but had Moala as 2nd Five. A midfield association with SBW could be lethal, with either Naholo or Savea on the left wing. But I really hope ALB to play a lot better in the second test.
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What a game. The intensity and quality was through the roof. Amazing.
What a magnificent Lions first half try.
Hard to pick out individuals in a game like that but standouts for me included Brodie, Read, Aaron Smith, SBW and Crotty (before he went off). A special mention also to Sam Cane who I thought played his best test and Rieko Ioane who after a quiet first half (though importantly did nothing wrong) was sensational in the second half - what a star. Bench was great.
Pub in Melbourne I was in was absolutely jam packed for the game with roughly 50/50 support. A lot of fun.
Edit - forgot to mention Dagg. Some huge plays from him
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@ACT-Crusader I agree and appreciate their efforts but would it be good to have Charlie or someone like him for 80 minutes. I think he really help change the game. Cane had a patch where he was being driven back, Kaino was gone and we look shakey.
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@MiketheSnow I think it was worth looking at.
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Wonder what Chris Fucking Rattue has to say about now... clearly he didn't know his Chiefs selection that well...
Read is past it and should retire I'd imagine.
Followed by we really need Damian McKenzie at 10.
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@MrDenmore said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Who are they going to bring into the side to replace Ben Smith and Ryan Crotty?
Not Laumape please. Not the right time or place.
I'd go goodhue. But they might bring back fekitoa.
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@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in
How to pick someone who's either watched no rugby all season or mainly follows soccer. What planet are you on?
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Good test match, well done NZ and congrats to all you guys.
I felt that the try following the scrum penalty illustrated the difference between the two teams and how the game was won best. Not that the incident itself was the turning point necessarily more how it highlighted the mindset. Your boys got the nudge on big time and got the penalty, then went on. Our guys were mentally preparing to defend the subsequent line out in our 22. And that basically was the story of the game.
What can Gatland do now? I don't think he can tinker too much with personnel, there is an argument for Itoje over AWJ (although Kris saved his worst game of the tour for the first test - at least I hope he did). The more adventurous back three I felt earned another go but I would have North on the bench instead of Halfpenny because it is unlikely that we will be going into the last quarter thinking we need to keep this conservative. Our impact players must be blokes that can take things up a gear. I'm not sure the Sexton-Farrell axis worked too well and would keep Teo. Just got to be more alive to the possibilities and dangers, oh and don't keep coughing the ball up.
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@Billy-Tell mate I'm sorry but the both Canes centres are better than Goodhue. He was pants against the Lions. In my option I think there are better centres in NZ. He's walking into the AB's on the back of a good Saders pack. So would you start him next week?
