'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach
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There is some serious collective wisdom on this thread.
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@Disgusted-of-TW said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
I get the whole "holding the team to a higher standard" thing, but that doesn't necessarily need to translate into being stinting in praise of others, even if their efforts are relatively uninspiring by comparison. For instance, when my kids were little, their Lego efforts were crap compared to mine, but I praised them enough to keep them trying. My wife can't serve for shit, but I tell her that a fair proportion of the double faults are unlucky (or maybe even "in", if I'm on a promise). If you're just going to tell the unadorned truth all the time you might as well be Dutch. And celibate.
Yeah - I had that problem with my boyfriend not being good at serving.
I stopped telling him after I got baked beans for breakfast three times in a row....
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Aw man, we have already had a thread about our arrogance on tour, do we have to keep talking about it, I'd rather it was just seen as something we knew but don't talk about
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@Pot-Hale Cold shoulder and a warm wind to follow
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Actually if Aura has gone walkabout at least Harry Gant can step up.
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There was quite a lot of "the Lion's aren't going to win again on tour" chatter after the Blues match.
That isn't holding ourselves to a higher standard or passion for the game.
It's arrogant. It's condescending and it's also bullshit.
The British press talks a lot about every NZer being an expert on rugby and every granny being able to talk authoritatively about the workings of the front row. Which is as much crap about the "it's like Britain in the 50's" twaddle.
Rugby is our national sport so yeah its more popularly followed than in Britain (or pretty much anywhere else), but this forum can make you forget how little the average Kiwi actually knows about the game. Even here there are many (myself included) who confess we don't follow rugby as closely as we once did.
Couple the above with serious lashings of hubris and inferiority complex and yeah arrogant seems fairly accurate.
and BTW if everyone was fit I wouldn't have a tourist in my starting AB side either
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@dogmeat said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
and BTW if everyone was fit I wouldn't have a tourist in my starting AB side either
I'd squeeze in one of their pack somewhere as a specialist lineout shouter. Not sure which one, certainly not Itoje over our starting locks.
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The accusation was that NZ fans are arrogant. As a blanket claim it's bullshit. Of course there are some piston wristed gibbons. Just like in any nation.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
The accusation was that NZ fans are arrogant. As a blanket claim it's bullshit. Of course there are some piston wristed gibbons. Just like in any nation.
It might be easier if you just name the few who aren't - we can keep a look-out for them.....
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@Pot-Hale said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
The accusation was that NZ fans are arrogant. As a blanket claim it's bullshit. Of course there are some piston wristed gibbons. Just like in any nation.
It might be easier if you just name the few who aren't - we can keep a look-out for them.....
If you point out the 2 Irishmen who aren't drunks and addicted to potatoes.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel Are you including plastics in the search? If so, I can take or leave potatoes, if that helps?
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I'll give the Lions something. They are much better than us at living offside; shouting autistically at lineout time; and aimlessly running in to people a lot.
They're good for fuck all else though. I mean, it's a team full of Welsh. Come on.
Hanson's prematch speech this week should just be paraphrasing the famous Sir Alex Ferguson's "lads, it's Tottenham"
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@Pot-Hale said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
The accusation was that NZ fans are arrogant. As a blanket claim it's bullshit. Of course there are some piston wristed gibbons. Just like in any nation.
It might be easier if you just name the few who aren't - we can keep a look-out for them.....
Jesus , pass the burn cream .
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@Margin_Walker Probably not I was in a shity mood yesterday and a couple of things back the camels back. So I had a rant. 10 minute rule will be in affect on Saturday morning. The wife is English so 10 minute rule means you only have 10 minutes after the game to gloat or moan about the result the its STFU.
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@Salacious-Crumb Does expecting a win make us arrogant. That would make all rugby supports arrogant as no supporter goes to a game and expect to lose. In their heart of hearts they expect there team to win, otherwise why support them. Winning is the enjoyment.
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From what ive seen , we have a lot of arrogant piston wristed gibbons hanging around rugby facebook pages ,
And most of them seem to know fuck all about rugby ,and truth be known arent into it that much ,
but just like telling everyone how good we are ,
But generally speaking , facebook is a good place for finding piston wristed gibbons , so there is a good chance if we have them , thats where you will find them
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@Wreck-Diver said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
@Salacious-Crumb Does expecting a win make us arrogant. That would make all rugby supports arrogant as no supporter goes to a game and expect to lose. In their heart of hearts they expect there team to win, otherwise why support them. Winning is the enjoyment.
Do you support a team because they win? And not when they don't win? Odd. I support my team also if I expect them to lose. The Magpies lost all but two of their games last year, but I'd never walk away because of that. Because they're my team. Wouldn't be different if the ABs hit a losing streak.
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Well we should really start with the definition of arrogant:
arrogant
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adjective
having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.When you support a team with such an astonishing rate of success (46 consecutive test wins at home, 63 wins, 2 draws and 4 losses under Hansen) that doesn't leave a lot of room to exaggerate our abilities.
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@Stargazer said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
@Wreck-Diver said in 'NZ fans are arrogant' is fast becoming the new poach:
@Salacious-Crumb Does expecting a win make us arrogant. That would make all rugby supports arrogant as no supporter goes to a game and expect to lose. In their heart of hearts they expect there team to win, otherwise why support them. Winning is the enjoyment.
Do you support a team because they win? And not when they don't win? Odd. I support my team also if I expect them to lose. The Magpies lost all but two of their games last year, but I'd never walk away because of that. Because they're my team. Wouldn't be different if the ABs hit a losing streak.
I go to watch Northland play and expect (hope) they will win every game! Yes I come away disappointed more often than not....
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@taniwharugby To me, hope and expectation are two entirely different things. I have always hope my team wins, but not always expectation.
