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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

    1 Moody
    2 Taylor
    3 Franks
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Kaino
    7 Cane
    8 Read
    9 A Smith
    10 B Barrett
    11 J Savea
    12 Crotty
    13 ALB
    14 Dagg
    15 B Smith
    16 Harris
    17 Crockett
    18 Faumuina
    19 Romano
    20 A Savea
    21 TJP
    22 Cruden
    23 SBW

    It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

    Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

    A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

    Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

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    I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.

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    @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

    1 Moody
    2 Taylor
    3 Franks
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Kaino
    7 Cane
    8 Read
    9 A Smith
    10 B Barrett
    11 J Savea
    12 Crotty
    13 ALB
    14 Dagg
    15 B Smith
    16 Harris
    17 Crockett
    18 Faumuina
    19 Romano
    20 A Savea
    21 TJP
    22 Cruden
    23 SBW

    It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

    Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

    A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

    Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

    What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?

    I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.

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    @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

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    @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

    Unless it's a race to the dinner table

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    @MN5 said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @No-Quarter said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    This is what I think they'll go with for test one:

    1 Moody
    2 Taylor
    3 Franks
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Kaino
    7 Cane
    8 Read
    9 A Smith
    10 B Barrett
    11 J Savea
    12 Crotty
    13 ALB
    14 Dagg
    15 B Smith
    16 Harris
    17 Crockett
    18 Faumuina
    19 Romano
    20 A Savea
    21 TJP
    22 Cruden
    23 SBW

    It's pretty easy to pick an AB team, and I think what I chose above has just solidified following recent results.

    Only change I'd make is SBW to start with Crotty on the bench due to Crotty's lack of game-time.

    A Smith has done enough to warrant a start. As has J Savea.

    Romano or Scott Barrett is the only other point of contention, but I think they've been keeping Romano on ice and will use him in test one due to his experience.

    What are the strengths/weaknesses of Barrett vs Romano?

    I'm asking for a friend who doesnt know rugby that well.

    Hah, Barrett has a better all-round game but doesn't bring quite the same physicality as Romano, which is why I'd go Romano as a bench option for impact, as well as experience.

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    @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

    True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

    I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

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    here we go!!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/93830116/lions-tour-warren-gatland-accuses-all-blacks-of-dodgy-blocking-tactics

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    wow, current odds at TAB:

    ABs $1.16
    Lions $4.75

    I'd move ABs out to about $1.45 and bring Lions down to about $2.00.

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    @pakman said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    I also prefer SBW to start. Problem with that is Crotty doesn't appear to offer much impact as a sub. Added to Cruden being unlikely to be used as tactical sub and that means bench becomes very injury focussed. Crotty/ALB suffers from lack of grunt, albeit wouldn't be such an issue if Farrell at 12.

    Not sure Crotty/ALB lacks grunt. They both play very direct and bring defenders with them. One criticism of Sonny is that he does go lateral from time to time trying to set something up that may not be there.

    Crotty the best defensive midfielder we have so in arm wrestle type games he's made for that.

    I think they go with the same starting lineup that played Manu with Read coming in.

    Crotty on the bench with A. Savea

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    @ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

    True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

    I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

    Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.

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    @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    here we go!!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/93830116/lions-tour-warren-gatland-accuses-all-blacks-of-dodgy-blocking-tactics

    Was wondering why nobody had mentioned this so put it in the other thread... oops ...

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    @Billy-Tell said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @ACT-Crusader said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @taniwharugby said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    @MN5 one of Scotts weaknesses is that he isn't as fast as Beaudie or Jordie

    True. But apparently Scott the better mile runner, so an endurance man.

    I'd go Romano first up. He's been a very good off the bench option this year. But either way you're getting a good lock.

    Romano failed his audition in the Crusaders game. Meanwhile Barrett nailed his vs Samoa. I'll be surprised to see Romano on the bench.

    I doubt a cameo from the bench against a Samoan side being torn to shreds will put Barrett ahead of Romano. He may already be ahead... but I think given Romano has been in good form, is more physical, and has experience, I'd be surprised if he was overlooked.

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    @KiwiMurph Thats why PT would be better unless I missed something and he is injured or just overlooked.

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    @broughie or just not in pickable form and not endearing himself to selectors.

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    @No-Quarter I just hope that Romano has been practicing his kick off takes. Because in the Crusaders game the 2 kick offs that came their way he butchered the catch.

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    Just seen a long rang forecast for Saturday and there is a 3% chance of rain. This is a question for Aucklander's has Eden Park been slippery when dry due to a night due?

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    Oh FFS, quit the worrying about the weather. If the ABs can't beat these guys in all conditions then that's how it goes.
    IMO if it pisses down they should watch the 96 Athletic Park game and see how to do it.

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    I do hope that when Gats has his referees chat about the dastardly blocking tactics he promises his defensive line will stay onside.

    When you consider the effect on the game of D lines that get even 6 inches head start you wonder why refs teams don't take a different approach. All they have to do is tell teams they have to be clearly and obviously onside to avoid the whistle rather than clearly and obviously offside to get one. Make things difficult for the AR and you get a warning to keep well onside or penalties will be blown.

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    @Crucial said in BIL & AB teams for Test #1 (AKA - who's impressing you at the moment?):

    I do hope that when Gats has his referees chat about the dastardly blocking tactics he promises his defensive line will stay onside.

    When you consider the effect on the game of D lines that get even 6 inches head start you wonder why refs teams don't take a different approach. All they have to do is tell teams they have to be clearly and obviously onside to avoid the whistle rather than clearly and obviously offside to get one. Make things difficult for the AR and you get a warning to keep well onside or penalties will be blown.

    But, but, that would take some common sense.

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