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    @Bones Strange comment, I can't remember a single Test yellow card for Itoje? He's certainly not known for them.

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    @SimonAdd_2 Not so strange if ya watched the 6N, he was very, very lucky not to see card (s). High tackles and high cleans galore, it was rather oddly ignored. Which probably isn't a good thing for the BIL, as I guess he won't be looking to curtail that...

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    @Bones Nice try, I'm not being dragged into another high tackle debate on here!

    Re: Warburton, @MiketheSnow touches on an interesting point. Do the Lions need a backrow lineout option? If so, a lot of the backrow combinations being posited would be ruled out. Personally, I'd go for O'Mahony-O'Brien-Vunipola, with Faletau on the bench.

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    @SimonAdd_2 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones Nice try, I'm not being dragged into another high tackle debate on here!

    Re: Warburton, @MiketheSnow touches on an interesting point. Do the Lions need a backrow lineout option? If so, a lot of the backrow combinations being posited would be ruled out. Personally, I'd go for O'Mahony-O'Brien-Vunipola, with Faletau on the bench.

    Depending on the lifters, Warburton is more than capable in the lineout. Tipuric too.

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    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

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    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    All we'll have to do is run DMac at him as a sacrificial ploy.

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    If Gatland wants a more specialist 7, then I'd be picking vdF or Dan Leavy before O'Brien.

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    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    All we'll have to do is run DMac at him as a sacrificial ploy.

    Kolisi wrapped his forearm around DMac's head and Peyper was super quick to brush it off and simply claim McKenzie fell into it.

    Peyper will ref one of the tests too. Although he might not be so lenient if the offender is a different nationality to himself.....

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    The New Zealand Provincial Barbarians squad is named tomorrow (Wednesday 12 April). The squad will be made up of players from outside the frontline Super Rugby squads, and players from Mitre 10 Cup, Heartland Championship and age-grade level.

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    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

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    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

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    @MN5 yeah I can see why you quoted my post...

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    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 yeah I can see why you quoted my post...

    The link was tenuous at best but I took it. go back to sleep grumpy.

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    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

    A dose of resigned reality and fans getting their silver lining lined up ahead of time?
    In the last 4 Lions tours Scotland have had a grand total of 11 players selected.

    One of the more successful Lions tours to NZ (93) had a very good Scots contingent though so maybe Gatland will be missing a trick if he focuses on those south of the wall and across the Irish sea

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    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

    A dose of resigned reality and fans getting their silver lining lined up ahead of time?
    In the last 4 Lions tours Scotland have had a grand total of 11 players selected.

    One of the more successful Lions tours to NZ (93) had a very good Scots contingent though so maybe Gatland will be missing a trick if he focuses on those south of the wall and across the Irish sea

    Aside from the Hastings brothers, the Scots that toured in 93 were pretty much a let down. Though Andy Nichol did OK as a replacement. The tight 5 forwards were an embarrassment.

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    @Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

    A dose of resigned reality and fans getting their silver lining lined up ahead of time?
    In the last 4 Lions tours Scotland have had a grand total of 11 players selected.

    One of the more successful Lions tours to NZ (93) had a very good Scots contingent though so maybe Gatland will be missing a trick if he focuses on those south of the wall and across the Irish sea

    Aside from the Hastings brothers, the Scots that toured in 93 were pretty much a let down. Though Andy Nichol did OK as a replacement. The tight 5 forwards were an embarrassment.

    Ah, but it's all about the intangibles that the Scots bring to the touring group, not the playing abilities 😉

    Joking aside there is probably a little truth in this. Not sure if you have been to the shaky isles but Scots would feel far more comfortable here than the English. We have a more similar connection in attitudes, habits etc.
    I know I feel more 'at home' when in Scotland than in England despite having a pommy mother and having spent more time living in England than Scotland.

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    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

    A dose of resigned reality and fans getting their silver lining lined up ahead of time?
    In the last 4 Lions tours Scotland have had a grand total of 11 players selected.

    One of the more successful Lions tours to NZ (93) had a very good Scots contingent though so maybe Gatland will be missing a trick if he focuses on those south of the wall and across the Irish sea

    Aside from the Hastings brothers, the Scots that toured in 93 were pretty much a let down. Though Andy Nichol did OK as a replacement. The tight 5 forwards were an embarrassment.

    Ah, but it's all about the intangibles that the Scots bring to the touring group, not the playing abilities 😉

    Joking aside there is probably a little truth in this. Not sure if you have been to the shaky isles but Scots would feel far more comfortable here than the English. We have a more similar connection in attitudes, habits etc.
    I know I feel more 'at home' when in Scotland than in England despite having a pommy mother and having spent more time living in England than Scotland.

    It's cos Scots are awesome and the English are fluffybunnies

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    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

    A dose of resigned reality and fans getting their silver lining lined up ahead of time?
    In the last 4 Lions tours Scotland have had a grand total of 11 players selected.

    One of the more successful Lions tours to NZ (93) had a very good Scots contingent though so maybe Gatland will be missing a trick if he focuses on those south of the wall and across the Irish sea

    Aside from the Hastings brothers, the Scots that toured in 93 were pretty much a let down. Though Andy Nichol did OK as a replacement. The tight 5 forwards were an embarrassment.

    Ah, but it's all about the intangibles that the Scots bring to the touring group, not the playing abilities 😉

    Joking aside there is probably a little truth in this. Not sure if you have been to the shaky isles but Scots would feel far more comfortable here than the English. We have a more similar connection in attitudes, habits etc.
    I know I feel more 'at home' when in Scotland than in England despite having a pommy mother and having spent more time living in England than Scotland.

    It's cos Scots are awesome and the English are fluffybunnies

    We all know that. I was trying to explain that to @Catogrande nicely.

    But thanks for cutting to the chase. 😉

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    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

    A dose of resigned reality and fans getting their silver lining lined up ahead of time?
    In the last 4 Lions tours Scotland have had a grand total of 11 players selected.

    One of the more successful Lions tours to NZ (93) had a very good Scots contingent though so maybe Gatland will be missing a trick if he focuses on those south of the wall and across the Irish sea

    Aside from the Hastings brothers, the Scots that toured in 93 were pretty much a let down. Though Andy Nichol did OK as a replacement. The tight 5 forwards were an embarrassment.

    Ah, but it's all about the intangibles that the Scots bring to the touring group, not the playing abilities 😉

    Joking aside there is probably a little truth in this. Not sure if you have been to the shaky isles but Scots would feel far more comfortable here than the English. We have a more similar connection in attitudes, habits etc.
    I know I feel more 'at home' when in Scotland than in England despite having a pommy mother and having spent more time living in England than Scotland.

    It's cos Scots are awesome and the English are fluffybunnies

    Notwithstanding the possible truth in that statement it must have galled you as a wannabe ginger woad that the Scottish contribution fell so alarmingly between the 89 tour to Aus and 93?

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    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @MN5 said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @SimonAdd_2 No need for debate - it's a definite trend from him and unless they take him aside to work on it, I'd put money on him seeing at least a yellow at some stage during the tour. Just ask Stuart Hogg....

    Talk on the Scottish Rugby sites is how it would be great for loads of Scots to miss out on the ultimate honour in British rugby just so they have a strong team for the Oz tour. They all know Hogg is a shoe in but they hope the Grays, Seymour etc miss out.

    Such loser talk. No wonder Scots Rugby has been fucked for so long.

    A dose of resigned reality and fans getting their silver lining lined up ahead of time?
    In the last 4 Lions tours Scotland have had a grand total of 11 players selected.

    One of the more successful Lions tours to NZ (93) had a very good Scots contingent though so maybe Gatland will be missing a trick if he focuses on those south of the wall and across the Irish sea

    Aside from the Hastings brothers, the Scots that toured in 93 were pretty much a let down. Though Andy Nichol did OK as a replacement. The tight 5 forwards were an embarrassment.

    Ah, but it's all about the intangibles that the Scots bring to the touring group, not the playing abilities 😉

    Joking aside there is probably a little truth in this. Not sure if you have been to the shaky isles but Scots would feel far more comfortable here than the English. We have a more similar connection in attitudes, habits etc.
    I know I feel more 'at home' when in Scotland than in England despite having a pommy mother and having spent more time living in England than Scotland.

    It's cos Scots are awesome and the English are fluffybunnies

    We all know that. I was trying to explain that to @Catogrande nicely.

    But thanks for cutting to the chase. 😉

    I can read between the lines thank you. The bile probably stems from a couple of hundred years ago when the English were rampaging through Scotland, raping and pillaging. They got to MN5's folks place, turned their noses up at the tin ornaments and to a man refused to rape his great, great grandma due to her being a munter. These chippy Jocks don't forget an insult like that.

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