2016 End-of-year internationals
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OBrien fails a late fitness test for Ireland apparently so Van der Flier starts with OMahony on the bench.
Interested to see how we bounce back this week. Should do well up front but I can see attacking being an issue again.
Sexton, Henshaw and Zebo are our first three playmakers and none of them start. Big performances needed from Jackson, Ringrose and Earls.
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@Pot-Hale said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Stargazer said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
Haha, and the commentator starts whinging, conveniently ignoring that the England player landed on his feet! That's never a card.
Barnes said that the player landed on his feet.
It does seem slightly perverse that the way the tackled player lands should be a factor in determining the penalty. I have no issue with the red for Daly, but the Argentinian challenge on May merited a yellow.
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@Disgusted-of-TW All these cards are a real blight on our game - 13 on 13 at the end, may as well have been watching league. Just ridiculous. It's not like rugby isn't a tough game. It's not tiddly winks out there.
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Ireland very good at retaining possession for long periods but not over imaginative with what they do with it ,
but could wear the Aussies down eventually the way its looking
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Dillane try.
10-0
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@Disgusted-of-TW said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Pot-Hale said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Stargazer said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
Haha, and the commentator starts whinging, conveniently ignoring that the England player landed on his feet! That's never a card.
Barnes said that the player landed on his feet.
It does seem slightly perverse that the way the tackled player lands should be a factor in determining the penalty. I have no issue with the red for Daly, but the Argentinian challenge on May merited a yellow.
Mind you, if Daly had have at least tried to do something rather than just walk off after he's thrown the guy over his shoulder he could have possibly stopped him landing on his head. That was shit.
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Running upright into forwards. Never a good plan. That's four now.
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@Crash Well I guess that then gets into the whole player welfare discussion, which I still don't hold a coherent position on, some days I'm a hawk, others a dove. But, whatever position the refs are asked to take, it should be consistently applied.
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@Bones said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Disgusted-of-TW said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Pot-Hale said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Stargazer said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
Haha, and the commentator starts whinging, conveniently ignoring that the England player landed on his feet! That's never a card.
Barnes said that the player landed on his feet.
It does seem slightly perverse that the way the tackled player lands should be a factor in determining the penalty. I have no issue with the red for Daly, but the Argentinian challenge on May merited a yellow.
Mind you, if Daly had have at least tried to do something rather than just walk off after he's thrown the guy over his shoulder he could have possibly stopped him landing on his head. That was shit.
Oh , for sure not clever, but dumb and panicked rather than malicious, I think. Reminded me of my dogs response when he's caught with a shoe, drops it like a hot potato. Fine when it's a shoe, not great when it's a large bloke in mid jump.
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Surely SA coach can't last...
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@Disgusted-of-TW said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Bones said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Disgusted-of-TW said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Pot-Hale said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
@Stargazer said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
Haha, and the commentator starts whinging, conveniently ignoring that the England player landed on his feet! That's never a card.
Barnes said that the player landed on his feet.
It does seem slightly perverse that the way the tackled player lands should be a factor in determining the penalty. I have no issue with the red for Daly, but the Argentinian challenge on May merited a yellow.
Mind you, if Daly had have at least tried to do something rather than just walk off after he's thrown the guy over his shoulder he could have possibly stopped him landing on his head. That was shit.
Oh , for sure not clever, but dumb and panicked rather than malicious, I think. Reminded me of my dogs response when he's caught with a shoe, drops it like a hot potato. Fine when it's a shoe, not great when it's a large bloke in mid jump.
That sounds like a large dog.
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Name Tenure Win %
Ian McIntosh 1993–94[127] 33%
Kitch Christie 1994–96[128] 100%
Andre Markgraaff 1996[129] 61%
Carel du Plessis 1997[130] 37%
Nick Mallett 1997–2000[131] 71%
Harry Viljoen 2000–02[132] 53%
Rudolf Straeuli 2002–03[133] 52%
Jake White 2004–07[134] 67%
Peter de Villiers 2008–11[135] 62%
Heyneke Meyer 2012–15[136] 67%
Allister Coetzee 2016– 31% -
@RaGe_X said in 2016 End-of-year internationals:
Name Tenure Win %
Ian McIntosh 1993–94[127] 33%
Kitch Christie 1994–96[128] 100%
Andre Markgraaff 1996[129] 61%
Carel du Plessis 1997[130] 37%
Nick Mallett 1997–2000[131] 71%
Harry Viljoen 2000–02[132] 53%
Rudolf Straeuli 2002–03[133] 52%
Jake White 2004–07[134] 67%
Peter de Villiers 2008–11[135] 62%
Heyneke Meyer 2012–15[136] 67%
Allister Coetzee 2016– 31%I was sad to see Heyneke go to be honest. He lived and breathed Bok rugby. His predecessor was a loon and his successor is just not up to it, nor has he from all accounts been able to keep the engine room engaged.
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The ANC needs to make a choice. Keep pursuing their race agenda, watch all their good players leave or even choose to play for other countries and SA rugby become the Italy of the rugby championship.
Or ditch Coetzee, pick a proper coach and a team based on merit.
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Within minutes of South Africa's defeat, their eighth defeat in the calendar year, the president of SA Rugby announced a review into the season and an overhaul of South African rugby.
"It has been a profoundly disappointing season in terms of results and we are acutely aware that we have failed to live up to the Springboks’ proud heritage,” said Mark Alexander.
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People berated Heyneke for his "backward" (read: conservative) rugby. Stats show his team was scoring more tries than previous boks teams coached by others.
Then they go and employ the kingpin of conservative rugby from the Stormers.
SA Rugby are still paying out Heyneke, will most likely have to pay out Alistair if they want to get rid of him.
Add to that the fact that SA Rugby's anchor sponsor pulled out over the Transformation row. Where is SA Rugby going to find a quality coach on:
- A shoestring budget, and
- Who doesnt mind jeopardizing their career by having one hand tied behind his back when it comes to coach and team selections.
Our minister of sport has done a wonderful job executing his plan of dismantling SA Rugby, and brought it on par with SA football.
RIP SA Rugby
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Guscott commentary on BBC:
To put this win in context, New Zealand absolutely thrashed South Africa, England put 50 points on them and Wales 27.
That gives you a measure of Wales' level and how poor South Africa are,
