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  • RapidoR Offline
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    If doing a cricket sessions-like analysis. In this drawn 2 match series- Ireland probably dominated about 120 of the 160 minutes.

    Plenty of food for thought.

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    @SimonAdd_2 said in Ireland II:

    Just saw this slow-mo of the Cane high tackle on YouTube. At the time in the match I thought it was more of a head-clash and a penalty only was a fair call, but the second angle here looks really ugly.

    I expect a citing for both Cane and Fekitoa.

    Certainly not for Cane. It's a head clash because Henshaw drops into the tackle at the worst possible moment. It looks worse because you're looking at it in slow motion.

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    @Rapido said in Ireland II:

    If doing a cricket sessions-like analysis. In this drawn 2 match series- Ireland probably dominated about 120 of the 160 minutes.

    Plenty of food for thought.

    I get what you are getting at but in a three tries to none victory I failed to see how they own 3/4 of the game.

    Each quarter of the game was like Ireland bowled a 0/50 session. Sure they kept the runs down but ultimately the game moved slowly away from them and their bowlers became less effective through attrition.

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    man there are some tears coming from the Irish in the aftermath....cheating, dirty, out to mame players at every touch....

    I think BB clearly scored, definitely swinging arm, hit him in the jaw, little in Canes one, bit clumsy from both players, but havent watched the other one yet.

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    I mentioned to my wife during the game that I'm finally getting a glimpse into what other fans feel when their team plays the All Blacks... double standards from the ref, smug captain given a free pass to talk to the ref as much as he likes, loose passes and inopportune penalties. I now understand their frustration... except for that we won 🙂

    I had the Irish commentary. The main commentator must surely have kissed the Blarney Stone, such was his eloquence as the game got off to a flyer. However, their ability to watch replay after replay of Barrett's try and not mention the fact he was tackled very high, was amazing.

    Fekitoa's tackle was bad. Definitely a yellow, but we can see from the Cane penalty that injury comes into play, so if the guy had been injured it could have been a red. If the Irish 12 wasn't injured I don't think Cane would have even been penalised.

    Barrett played well, but I would have given Retallick man of the match. You don't get much better than that from a lock.

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    Interesting contrast in reaction to the two results, Chicago and Dublin.

    Winners, losers, magnanimity and shit loss.

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    @booboo said in Ireland II:

    Interesting contrast in reaction to the two results, Chicago and Dublin.

    Winners, losers, magnanimity and shit loss.

    The Irish have been terrible losers today. All the kiwis who were happy for Ireland and their fans after the Chicago loss should hopefully now realise that others won't ever reciprocate that level of magnanimity towards us. I hope we will never ever see another day where an AB loss is accepted and even celebrated by many AB fans.

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    @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

    man there are some tears coming from the Irish in the aftermath....cheating, dirty, out to mame players at every touch....

    The normally measured Murray Kinsella is even taking the koolaid. Contrast their response with the congratulations from all and sundry when they finally managed a win two weeks ago.

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    @antipodean there were a huge bunch that were ranting about our supposed lack of humiltiy after that game too!

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    Have a fucking cry. It's laughable to suggest Ireland didn't get the rub of the green from the ref. Squealing for more cards? Pathetic.

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    @jegga said in Ireland II:

    @Luigi said in Ireland II:

    @chimoaus all comms are blinkered twats - it's a fact.

    Have you ever heard Justin Marshall call a game?

    Figured it would be a cold day in hell till I heard someone on the fern wishing Marshall was calling the game. Personally I find him refreshing for all the reasons the Irish comms were insufferable.

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    @mooshld there was one commentator who was truly, tragically partisan. I thought A Savea lucky about 55th min not going through the gate. And there were some high tackles from the Irish that weren't mentioned. Overall I thought our best loose forward was BBBR, TJP was very good, his bad kicks aside A Smith so-so, Squire didn't have much physical presence, Read was relatively quiet but not terrible,the Irish loosies excellent as a trio, their whole pack really good. Their outside backs not great though.

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    I'm not going to read the article, but Rattue predictably having another pop at Read. The guy is insufferable.

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    @antipodean

    Ardie had a very good game. Nothing at all was lost by Cane going off. It might have been a gain based on the way Ardie played

    Aaron was very poor in the first test and not much better in this one. Its a concern that the coaches can not see this. Esp with TJP playing so well. So they have a great alternative but can't see it

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    @chimoaus

    I think the onus has got to be on the tackler to take more care in these situations. Not go charging in head first like Cane did. But Cane can be a bit careless with no regard for other players

    But in the circumstances I think a yellow not red was enough

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    Didn't I always tell you Aaron Smith was shit?

    Classic test, a great contest, Schmiddy has Ireland well-drilled and focused. They should waste Australia next week but the stats today with their poss/terr are a demonstration of how limited they were in a couple of important aspects like finishing and decision-making, and how much more we could improve...

    Dagg and B.Barrett now clear first-choices. Oustanding game from Barrett, a breakout performance under pressure for form, and he kicked too..

    The Potatoes hammered us at the breakdown, which will now be every other team's idea of our Achilles tendon. The thing of standing off the ruck may need some re-thinking, they'd just keep going forward, and got like a thousand turnovers to our like none. Bring back Matt Todd. BUT we defended like motherfuckers in the second half, NO TRIES YOU WHINGING DONKIES...

    And Jack O'Piper was a joke.

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    I enjoyed reading the match thread as many of the comments echoed my reaction at the time while watching the game live. But I still much prefer these types of tests than one-sided games.

    As to Peyper, you know he had a terrible game when both coaches complain about him.

    Despite the much-improved D by the ABs they still missed >10% of their tackles. Some of the defence around the fringes of the ruck was average too but the scramble defence was excellent.

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    @pukunui said in Ireland II:

    Bit of a concern that we have been living off scraps of possession a few games lately. It seems that if they aren't kicking it to us lots and our offensive defence isn't causing errors we don't have many ways to get the ball back. Not calling for a pocock style approach but would be good to attack the breakdown a bit more often in the middle part of the field to turn that possession stat around. Need to fix our chronic offside issues too.

    Well said, we do seem to turn the ball over a lot from held up in the tackle or not enough support at breakdown. I'm sure the coaches are well aware of it but we always seem to be on the wrong side of possession stats. Perhaps we prefer to have aggressive D and hope to get ball from broken play, not sure.

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    @Winger said in Ireland II:

    @chimoaus

    I think the onus has got to be on the tackler to take more care in these situations. Not go charging in head first like Cane did. But Cane can be a bit careless with no regard for other players

    But in the circumstances I think a yellow not red was enough

    Sorry mate I was referring to Feki trying to take off the Irishmans head.

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    @Winger said in Ireland II:

    @antipodean

    Ardie had a very good game. Nothing at all was lost by Cane going off. It might have been a gain based on the way Ardie played

    The secret to effective trolling is moderation.

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