All Blacks v Ireland II
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PH, do you think you can play better than Chicago ?
Not a trick question , just curious ,
I guess most think NZ can play a hell of a lot better , whether that happens or not who knows .
I thought Ireland were as good today as Chicago , not much in it, so much guts and effort again ,
NZ were better though , defensively heaps better , ,linespeed was like a different team altogether , and the lineout was functioning again due to their locks back ,
that was the main difference for me
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@Crucial said in Ireland II:
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@SynicBast said in Ireland II:
@booboo said in Ireland II:
Good argument for a PT on the deliberate knock on by Trimble
The attempted intercept? I thought that was a good ref's call
I think right call. But I've seen them given in exactly that situation.
Agree but think it was a genuine attempt rather than a deliberate spoiler.
There was a definite deliberate knock on later from an Irish player reaching one handed for a high ballIs that where the commentators were calling for a card because Kearney had been taken without the ball??
Gee they made me laugh. In retrospect.
Mrs boo very upset they would call BZ the All Blacks.
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@akan004 said in Ireland II:
I honestly expected a more comprehensive display from the Abs after the Chicago loss. Our loosies were well and truly outplayed after Cane left and our forwards in general were shaded by the Irish. I don't think we are that far ahead of the pack as originally thought. Ireland's injuries cost them dearly and were unlucky not too have scored on a couple of occasions. Fekitoa probably played his last game in an All Black jersey imo.
That's because they had ASavea on the bench and not Todd.
I doubt it will be Fekitoa's last AB jersey, but I hope he won't be playing France, either because Crotty is fit or because Tamanivalu gets another chance.
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@Bones said in Ireland II:
How was Smith's card even a penalty? Ball was out, he was onside and came right through the middle with no hands.
Yet Savea gets tackled and Best gets a turnover with help from his players on the ground, Whitelock gets a turnover and it's scrum Ireland. Righto...
Haven't been grumpy about a redereeing oerformance this year. But by crikey O'Piper was leaning heavily to the Paddies.
Am sure it was down to the Barrett try which he disagreed with.
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That was shit. Shit discipline and and shit hot potato rugby. We suck donkeys balls under the highball. The midfield just didn't work and Feki has to go.
Positives: Played with 14 men for 20 minutes, Ireland played like demons on speed, but we still won comfortably enough.
BB and locks awesome.
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@SynicBast said in Ireland II:
@Crucial said in Ireland II:
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@SynicBast said in Ireland II:
@booboo said in Ireland II:
Good argument for a PT on the deliberate knock on by Trimble
Agree but think it was a genuine attempt rather than a deliberate spoiler.
There was a definite deliberate knock on later from an Irish player reaching one handed for a high ballYeah Rob kearney, serial whinger as well - he doesn't understand that if he is trying to control a ball he is eligible to be tackled
What he said
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@No-Quarter said in Ireland II:
Fekitoa reflex action but off to the bin.
A Smith needs to be pulled ASAP.
My first reaction was there was nothing in it. But YC justified in this case.
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They even mentioned Peyper being influenced by the crowd in the after match discussion on tele. I think it was obvious that he was. The booing was awful and I really hope the Aussies do the Irish over (never thought that I would say that). Terrible crowd, more embarrassing than booing Qwade (even though he deserves it).
Hanson just said "all you want the ref to do is be consistent. That's all I have to say about that."
Says it all really.
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How great is it to have two locks that tackle, compete at the ruck, take lineout ball, and just do their job.
How poor was Aaron Smith? Most notable is that his kicking has gone to the dogs.
Even before Cane went off our loosies were struggling a bit at the breakdown. In attack I thought Squire and Read were very good.
Barrett looked freshened with the week off. Showed a clean set of heels a few times.
Like our back three today. Didn't do everything perfect, but a better overall performance.
Whether it's the NZ commentators or the Irish ones I had on to start the game - mute is still the best option
Well done ABs
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I am just not impressed with Fekitoa's accuracy in general, just way below AB standard. The thought of having Fekitoa, Savea, Naholo and Moala on the field at the same time is shocking but that's what we had in Chicago, I am starting to wonder if we can have more than one power back on the field at one time.
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@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
BB by far the best AB on the field. Read having a much better 2nd half thus far.
2nd best.
You obviously didn't watch Brodie
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@booboo said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
BB by far the best AB on the field. Read having a much better 2nd half thus far.
2nd best.
You obviously didn't watch Brodie
Brodie was a manbeast around the fringes - he made some absolutely monstrous cover hits that stuffed the Irish angled runners in their tracks and did it without going high like Fuckknuckle fekitoa
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Losing our locks was a huge factor in Chicago but clearly Barrett jr would have put up more resistance than Kaino or PT in the second row, the mix in the backs was completely wrong, and Crockett should have been on the bench, A. Smith was not ready to come back though admittedly this was a harder call.
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@Tordah said in Ireland II:
Payne wins a turnover on his knee, or as the Irish commentators call it "on his feet"
None so blind as those who will not see.
We lost a pen in the first half when BFA lost his feet at a ruck while the Irish player (22 ?) was scrambling around on his hands and knees.
