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  • SiamS Offline
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    #25

    <p>Well no doubt the concept will work for the first year or two.</p>
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    <p>I'd be interested in the details about who pays for the travel of such largish squads. Also if it's a WTG thing or if the teams have to guarantee some big names.</p>
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    <p>From a coach's point of view it's a bit disrupting as it's not really a chance to sort combinations, lineout drills or really too much in terms of 15 a side tactics. </p>
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    <p>Pretty much just a chance at some team bonding and a cash grab as far as I can see</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="595918" data-time="1468240185">
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    <p>Well no doubt the concept will work for the first year or two.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'd be interested in the details about who pays for the travel of such largish squads. <strong>Also if it's a WTG thing or if the teams have to guarantee some big names.</strong></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>From a coach's point of view it's a bit disrupting as it's not really a chance to sort combinations, lineout drills or really too much in terms of 15 a side tactics. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Pretty much just a chance at some team bonding and a cash grab as far as I can see</p>
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    <p>Given the squad sizes will be 35-36 players, I doubt there is much room for the main players not to be there. Most of the big name players will have one maybe two hitouts for a half or so in a preseason game. With the financial incentives I think there will be genuine interest from the franchises to do well so will send quality</p>

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    The Brisbane Tens draw has just taken place.

    Pool A - Rebels, Chiefs, Wild Knights, Waratahs
    Pool B - Reds, Blues, Samoa, Crusaders
    Pool C - Brumbies, Highlanders, Bulls
    Pool D - Force, Hurricanes, Toulon

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    #28

    Looks like they are trying to make this as hard to follow as it's older brother.

    2 pools of 4 and 2 pools of 3 .... riiigghhtttt

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  • pukunuiP Offline
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    #29

    Yes. My first reaction was wtf is up with those pools. It is pretty hard to divide 14 evenly apparently.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #30

    Wonder why they went for 14 teams, instead of 16 or 12.

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  • G Offline
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    14 teams?
    Sounds like a right balls up already.
    How the hell does that even work? Do pool a and b just have to suck it up and play an extra game? Or do pool c & d have to randomly play one team in their pool twice?

    Either way, totally unbalanced and unfair.
    Makes a bit of a mockery of the whole thing before it has even begun.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #32

    This is what the Brisbane 10s Twitter account posted yesterday, but it doesn't say anything about the pool stage:

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  • KruseK Online
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    As you'd expect... each team in pools C & D play one of the teams from the other 3-team pool.
    Only really an issue if there are 3 evenly matched teams in one pool-of-3, but wide difference in quality in the other.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    you'd think they of had more than 14 wanting in, so there must be a reason for it surely, rather than oh shit 14 doesn't divide into 4 evenly

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  • KruseK Online
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    #35

    Lack of hotel rooms in Brisbane?
    But yeah - really odd to not just have 2 more teams, and a suddenly un-weird format.
    Surely at least 2 more Saffa teams would have been keen. And/or the Argies.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    I bet they coulda thrown together another nz team too if the reason was just team numbers

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #37

    Here's the draw for the tournament:

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #38

    Draw in NZT:

    Blues Chiefs Crusaders Highlanders Hurricanes
    Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb)
    3.56pm v Reds 3.00pm v Rebels 5.30pm v Samoa 4.57pm v Brumbies 7.01pm v Force
    9.28pm v Samoa 7.33pm v Waratahs 9.00pm v Reds 10.00pm v Hurricanes 10.00pm v Highlanders
    Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb)
    2.22pm v Crusaders 1.27pm v Wild Knights 2.22pm v Blues 3.17pm v Bulls 2.50pm v Toulon
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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #39

    If true, then that's really disappointing. Also a bit harsh on the likes of DMac, Rieko Ioane, TKB, George Moala and Lima Sopoaga, who didn't get much game time during the EOYT, and JBarrett & Seta Tamanivalu (called up late) who didn't play at all for the ABs.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/88699422/no-current-all-blacks-will-be-released-for-brisbane-global-tens--report

    Edited to add that there's also a positive: second-stringers and players on the fringes of the ABs, who haven't made the squad (yet), will hopefully get decent game time. Players like James Lowe, Jordan Taufua, Brad Weber, Richie Mo'unga etc.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #40

    should come as no surprise really, the collective agreement states they must have the 12 week window after EOYT, been that way for a while hasn't it?

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  • BonesB Online
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    #41

    Yeah can't see how it's harsh, if it's part of the agreement. Not the NZRUs fault. I assume players can opt out of the agreement?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #42

    No, it's not surprising & once they're covered by the collective agreement, they can't get out of it, but that doesn't mean it's not disappointing for both the public and the players themselves. I think it's harsh, because some of these players have hardly played since Super Rugby. It must be very boring to just train and not play, and they must be chomping at the bit to finally get more game time, esp at a tournament like this. They'll now probably have to wait until the last PS game.

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    This is unsurprising. They have a contractually enforceable rest period. It's a competition that really does nothing for players other than gives fringe players an opportunity to display their skills or get injured.

    The Brumbies have Andrew Walker and Larkham running out for them.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
    #44

    I guess the biggest issue is there have been players who wont be in attendance promoting it....although that is down to Duco.

    at the end of the day, NZR with their collective agreement are looking after the players, and while players want to play, their bodies simply cannot play all year round, something has to give

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