All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.
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@Crucial Take the point. I don't think it's at all contentious that foul play can invalidate a try (or droppie I suppose) and I wasn't advocating that. And agree that the 'Rules' need to be applied throughout the game. But why not add something similar to what I propose to the try related TMO 'protocols' -- or whatever they're called? That way (in the actual game) Speight scores (I acknowledge that Barrett miraculously thwarted Le Roux but I don't think it's right to be influenced by remote possibilities). However, in your Hooper butt scenario foul play invalidates.
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Bones No great fan of Steyn. But I seem to recall he was the tactical ticker in 2009 when the Bokke's excellent kick chase under the then rules meant they owned us on the scoreboard.
Not sure what you're getting at?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel For a shithouse Pocock has zero go forward, and I suspect my old man (who's 86) could run him down -- did he have a serious knee problem?!
But I saw an article in The Roar, I think, a few years ago comparing McGod, Hooper and Pocock (who was out for a while then with injury) as 7s. The gist was that although Hooper was up there or ahead of Ritchie in turnovers, he paled into insignificance in terms of 'involvements' -- which I suppose is defined as being in the right place at the right time doing the right thing. Pocock was up there with Hooper on turnovers, but a long way towards Ritchie in involvements.
Would be interesting to what I trio of Pocock, Fardy and Timani could achieve with Hooper playing the 'Savea' role. -
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Bones That he has two dimensions -- goalkicking and Garryowens! But not in the same league as any of our 10s. Jantjes and Pollard are the only two recnt Bok 10s who have worried me at all.
Yep I don't disagree!
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What about the blatant elbow to Retailicks head which has left him out with concussion. That's been missed from what I can see by everybody. Around the 50 minute mark watch the Aussie number 6
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@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
What about the blatant elbow to Retailicks head which has left him out with concussion. That's been missed from what I can see by everybody. Around the 50 minute mark watch the Aussie number 6
No way? I'm sure the offender would've received a ban if that's true.
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@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
What about the blatant elbow to Retailicks head which has left him out with concussion. That's been missed from what I can see by everybody. Around the 50 minute mark watch the Aussie number 6
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I see from the article that their clown of a coach is blaming Retallick. Eddie Jones is going to have a field day with this dick head
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@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
I see from the article that their clown of a coach is blaming Retallick. Eddie Jones is going to have a field day with this dick head
He was, and he wasn't. Read the quote carefully, and ignore the creative editing that puts it at the bottom of the article:
Michael Cheika earlier defended Mumm and said Retallick was hardly an innocent bystander.
"I don't want to talk about it too much because there's a hearing to go but he [the citing commissioner] is not looking at all the action," Cheika said on Sunday. "He [Mumm] is trying to get back from being held illegally."
So he was asked about it before the hearing and had a made the point that the "elbow" - which had been painted as some calculated attack - was the result of illegal play from both parties. Have they asked him since? Probably not.
The citing commissioner took that into account when sentencing. Mumm takes the smart option of an early guilty plea, probably with Wallaby management, realising it was the quickest way to get it off the table.
The comments were funny. Some people even saying Brodie got what he deserved. Some getting all lit up that the off the ball shit from the Wallabies was somehow dirty, when that is exactly what Retallick was doing.
If Mumm managed to aim for, and hit, Retallick in the head, he's some kind of blind fighting, fucking ninja master.
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
If Mumm managed to aim for, and hit, Retallick in the head, he's some kind of blind fighting, fucking ninja master.
He's nothing like Daredevil, he's more like M4L's kid
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
I see from the article that their clown of a coach is blaming Retallick. Eddie Jones is going to have a field day with this dick head
He was, and he wasn't. Read the quote carefully, and ignore the creative editing that puts it at the bottom of the article:
Michael Cheika earlier defended Mumm and said Retallick was hardly an innocent bystander.
"I don't want to talk about it too much because there's a hearing to go but he [the citing commissioner] is not looking at all the action," Cheika said on Sunday. "He [Mumm] is trying to get back from being held illegally."
So he was asked about it before the hearing and had a made the point that the "elbow" - which had been painted as some calculated attack - was the result of illegal play from both parties. Have they asked him since? Probably not.
The citing commissioner took that into account when sentencing. Mumm takes the smart option of an early guilty plea, probably with Wallaby management, realising it was the quickest way to get it off the table.
The comments were funny. Some people even saying Brodie got what he deserved. Some getting all lit up that the off the ball shit from the Wallabies was somehow dirty, when that is exactly what Retallick was doing.
If Mumm managed to aim for, and hit, Retallick in the head, he's some kind of blind fighting, fucking ninja master.
Good post till that last paragraph
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@taniwharugby oi that's a bit far
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@mariner4life no such thing round here bro!
