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  • ChrisC Offline
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    wrote last edited by
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    Even more of a Hugh performance by Fletcher Newell going the whole 80 minutes considering he played the whole game with a grade-two MCL injury.
    He injured his knee in the Blues SF.
    Probably will put Newell out of the French series.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Probably will put Newell out of the French series.

    Which would make playing 80 minutes yesterday a stupid decision. Or, priorities are very different from what mine would be. A shame that he might miss out.

    Then again maybe he felt that he had to play to get into the AB team?

    WTF do I know, I'm just posting to let people know that I'm still alive.

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    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    replied to Snowy last edited by
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    @Snowy love it bro.

    Newell’s play along side Bell and Bower was pretty important at the end and it showed with the scrum dominance. The drop off beyond our 3 ABs is still a little more than you’d want in such a big game.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    replied to booboo last edited by ACT Crusader
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    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

    We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Crazy Horse last edited by
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    @Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

    We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.

    You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    replied to Chris last edited by
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    @Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

    We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.

    You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.

    Bugger. I looked but couldn't see it.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Crazy Horse last edited by
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    @Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

    We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.

    You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.

    Bugger. I looked but couldn't see it.

    Yeah it’s still there mate

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

    We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.

    You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.

    Out of interest, and anticipating upcoming Bledisloes, how?

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to booboo last edited by
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    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

    We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.

    You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.

    Out of interest, and anticipating upcoming Bledisloes, how?

    If you click on the rugby tag it normally comes up in up coming live rugby or replays it just reads NZ coverage.
    I have premier Stan costs me $38 I am not sure if there are cheaper packages with less options.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.

    Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.

    I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?

    The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.

    It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.

    I didn't care, NZ or Oz commentary is generally as shit as each other.

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    brodean
    wrote last edited by
    #893

    I can't stand Justin Marshall. I'd rather have the sound off than listen to him.

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    replied to Chris last edited by
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    @Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Even more of a Hugh performance by Fletcher Newell going the whole 80 minutes considering he played the whole game with a grade-two MCL injury.
    He injured his knee in the Blues SF.
    Probably will put Newell out of the French series. Bugger!

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    @nostrildamus said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    I still like Norris as a running prop off the bench. I wonder if the Chiefs locks are good at supporting in the scrum. Compared to Crusaders locks anyway.

    I think the starters were fine. Norris is a tall LH, and once Angus made it clear he'd penalise the scrum dropping I suspect Newell drove down with his right shoulder and bought penalties. Sami tried to explain to Angus but he wasn't listening.

    Fusitua has totally secure before Scooter's flying head butt took him out.

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  • YeetyaahY Offline
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    wrote last edited by Yeetyaah
    #896

    Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.

    Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.

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    replied to Yeetyaah last edited by
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    @Yeetyaah said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.

    Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.

    I agree with you; the Chiefs definitely went into their shells in that second half but some of that was down to the Crusader's ability to shut down anything the Chiefs threw at them. In saying that, the Chiefs kicked the ball away far too much.

    The Chiefs have put teams to the sword this year by chancing their arm in all areas of the park and backing themselves through their flare. We rarely saw that on Saturday and I think a big part of that was the Crusader's tactic of targeting DMac early with a few tough shots, he seemed to lose all of his confidence after getting smoked, which then impacted the rest of the backline because he then became a lot more hesitant in his decision making.

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    @Canes4life said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    @Yeetyaah said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:

    Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.

    Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.

    I agree with you; the Chiefs definitely went into their shells in that second half but some of that was down to the Crusader's ability to shut down anything the Chiefs threw at them. In saying that, the Chiefs kicked the ball away far too much.

    The Chiefs have put teams to the sword this year by chancing their arm in all areas of the park and backing themselves through their flare. We rarely saw that on Saturday and I think a big part of that was the Crusader's tactic of targeting DMac early with a few tough shots, he seemed to lose all of his confidence after getting smoked, which then impacted the rest of the backline because he then became a lot more hesitant in his decision making.

    I think it's (poor) tactics. They went away from the way they had played all season against the Blues, picking big loosies and trying to power up and play through the middle, and lost. Then they reverted to form a bit against the Brumbies and won, then went into their shell against the Crusaders - turning it into a high kick battle - and lost. Talk about playing straight to opposition teams' strengths.

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    wrote last edited by ARHS
    #899

    Hell it all looked like planned tactics to me. Saders were hitting chiefs playmakers hard behind the gainline, so Chiefs tried to play with ball in front of them. Unusually, no mistakes came from Crusaders under that bombardment, but did from Chiefs.

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    game_film
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    Watched the game cold. First half felt great and it just needed something to make it explode but it never came. Might be fair to say Clayton was out-coached as Saders played it on their terms only.

    Chiefs surely knew DMac would be targeted early and often (and late!) so should have had something up their sleeve.

    Crunch minute errors killed them: 68 giveaway pass by Carter, 69 Piss weak aerial from ENS and Jordan kicks on, 70 Jacomb drops it, 73 lose line out while on TV replay, 74 Reihana and Jordan back to back massive aerial wins, 77 - very weird move off the scrum that looked preplanned but not executed and goes into touch.

    I’d say they lost the final a couple of weeks ago though.

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