All Blacks 2025
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I think the first few rounds of Super Rugby have proven that Damian McKenzie and Beauden Barrett are indeed comfortably the two best 10s in the country, and their best position may well be fullback.
There is nothing below them that will be ready by 2027, so for that reason alone, the Mo'unga conversation will and should continue. Whether he starts is another question, but if DMac was to do his ACL (which he has before, and keep in mind he himself will be 32), you're looking at washed up, 36 year-old Beauden Barrett starting at 10 at the World Cup.
Godfrey has been nice, but has some rounding out to do, and is at best a prospect for the 2026 EOYT IMO. The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby the fuck? Robinson has been very good.
We have gone from who the fuck is Taine Robinson. To that guy is pretty bloody good.
Interestingly in a conversation about loosies on the Devlin podcast yesterday, Nigel Yalden was talking up Sean Withy as an option. Saying his style and work rate is like what we had with Cane.
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@HugeCarrot2 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones yeah the fact he kicked it 55m in the air under pressure was pretty good, it just didn't go out. I feel like these days they would have just run the minute off the clock without kicking anyway.
I can't stand these late game dinky kicks of recent years.
That makes me think that it's weird how he was vilified for that but Bachop wasn't for this kick that didn't go out that led to the try from the end of the world.
Also, on the general theme of the thread the attacks on Robertson are getting a bit silly, it's not like his whole focus is on league converts. At least he did one good thing this week and pulled his employee in line over his obsession for the overrated 10 playing in Japan.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Would not be surprising if Mounga shuns New Zealand altogether.
He already has.
Who wouldn’t ? He’s apparently the difference between a great AB side and an average one. That’s a lot of pressure
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
Bachop
How many more tests did he play?
And I do recall some pre-internet pre-Radio Sport (it was 1994) angst from the Flat Earth society.
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And apparently the Hoskins Sotutu non selection chat was tiresome....at least he was eligible for selection.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
Bachop
How many more tests did he play?
And I do recall some pre-internet pre-Radio Sport (it was 1994) angst from the Flat Earth society.
That was his first for the ABs and then he played four more after that.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
If he had opportunity to leave in the offseason and didn't take it (I really don't know, you would hope that the NZRFU could make that happen in order to get another player with AB potential in play during SR), then it's his own fault. Madness that he is at the Blues where he barely gets a run
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
If he had opportunity to leave in the offseason and didn't take it (I really don't know, you would hope that the NZRFU could make that happen in order to get another player with AB potential in play during SR), then it's his own fault. Madness that he is at the Blues where he barely gets a run
He's just come back from injury.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
Having watched some of the U20 tournament, I wasn’t really that excited by what was coming through, though didn’t catch Harry Inch.
We’re basically just waiting for someone to improve out of nowhere… so I guess that means it could be anyone!
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
