Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Bones said in TV Serieseseses:
So having moaned about Disney+ the other day, I've now got 3 months free. I
f I want to watch the Star Wars stuff that's not the mainstream movies, is there a particular order I should watch in?
Do you want to start with the good stuff or the bad?
If you want to start with the good then watch Mando S1 and Andor first, then Mando S2. Then wait for Andor S2 or watch the others in any order.
Actually, don't skip Book of Boba Fett though, it's interesting to see them completely ruin a show by making it another show and have that also signal the beginning of the decline of that other previously good show.
that probably sums it up pretty well
I really liked ahsoka (chopper might be my fav character in starwars) but know other didn't and might rely too much on things set up in the animated series
the acolyte...yeah....has lots of problems....but also has some of (one of?) the best lightsaber fights in all of star wars IMO and a bad guy they completely wasted
and skeleton crew is Goonies in space.....
I didn't mind Acolyte and Ahsoka, watchable but not outstanding. As long as they keep above the standard of the last movie/prequels then I'm easily pleased while noting I will happily grumpy old man about Filoni's influence on the franchise.
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Obi Wan show was not unlike BOBF, a bizarre mix of good and bad and
( Iāll throw in spoilers in case anyone hasnāt seen it )
ANOTHER fucken chick surviving being impaled by a lightsaber !!!!!I think the movie edit created by a fan is better than the actual show itself. Can't find it now but I assume someone posted it in this thread and that's how I found it.
@Kiwiwomble Yep, precedent was set a number of years ago with Maul, so no point complaining about surviving light saber wounds now.
the fan made movie edit of obiwan is much better too
im biting my tongue re the prequels....far from perfect but so much better than the sequeals
is it damning that there might actually be more "Bad" star wars than good?
No need to bite your tongue, I'm not policing you (and your wrongness).
I absolutely hate the prequels (I consider the last sequel one of the prequels in tone/style/quality too), took me until Covid to do a rewatch of them. They were worse than I remembered. I would happily watch The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi if I was on the couch and they were on, if the prequels come on I'd rather sit in silence contemplating everything that is wrong with the world.
Hmm, for me it will be Brilliant, Good, Average, Bad.
Brilliant: SW, ESB, Rogue 1, Andor, Mando 1&2
Good: TFA, TLJ, ROTJ
Average: Mando 3, Boba, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte
Bad: Prequels (including 9)I haven't seen Skeleton Crew or enough of the animated stuff to rate them.
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Bones said in TV Serieseseses:
So having moaned about Disney+ the other day, I've now got 3 months free. I
f I want to watch the Star Wars stuff that's not the mainstream movies, is there a particular order I should watch in?
Do you want to start with the good stuff or the bad?
If you want to start with the good then watch Mando S1 and Andor first, then Mando S2. Then wait for Andor S2 or watch the others in any order.
Actually, don't skip Book of Boba Fett though, it's interesting to see them completely ruin a show by making it another show and have that also signal the beginning of the decline of that other previously good show.
that probably sums it up pretty well
I really liked ahsoka (chopper might be my fav character in starwars) but know other didn't and might rely too much on things set up in the animated series
the acolyte...yeah....has lots of problems....but also has some of (one of?) the best lightsaber fights in all of star wars IMO and a bad guy they completely wasted
and skeleton crew is Goonies in space.....
I didn't mind Acolyte and Ahsoka, watchable but not outstanding. As long as they keep above the standard of the last movie/prequels then I'm easily pleased while noting I will happily grumpy old man about Filoni's influence on the franchise.
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Obi Wan show was not unlike BOBF, a bizarre mix of good and bad and
( Iāll throw in spoilers in case anyone hasnāt seen it )
ANOTHER fucken chick surviving being impaled by a lightsaber !!!!!I think the movie edit created by a fan is better than the actual show itself. Can't find it now but I assume someone posted it in this thread and that's how I found it.
@Kiwiwomble Yep, precedent was set a number of years ago with Maul, so no point complaining about surviving light saber wounds now.
the fan made movie edit of obiwan is much better too
im biting my tongue re the prequels....far from perfect but so much better than the sequeals
is it damning that there might actually be more "Bad" star wars than good?
No need to bite your tongue, I'm not policing you (and your wrongness).
I absolutely hate the prequels (I consider the last sequel one of the prequels in tone/style/quality too), took me until Covid to do a rewatch of them. They were worse than I remembered. I would happily watch The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi if I was on the couch and they were on, if the prequels come on I'd rather sit in silence contemplating everything that is wrong with the world.
Hmm, for me it will be Brilliant, Good, Average, Bad.
Brilliant: SW, ESB, Rogue 1, Andor, Mando 1&2
Good: TFA, TLJ, ROTJ
Average: Mando 3, Boba, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte
Bad: Prequels (including 9)I haven't seen Skeleton Crew or enough of the animated stuff to rate them.
I think we all agree 4-6 are the absolute best.
But the sequels are so shit compared to the prequels.
The way they shoehorned Palpatine in as the main villain was such bad writing ( even by SW standards )
āSomehow Palatine survivedā righto.
Awful, AWFUL characters. Rose, Holdo, the locksmithā¦.
Pretty rubbish characters. Finn, Po, Hux.
ā¦..and donāt get me started on what they did with Luke.
I did like Rey and Kylo Renn, I enjoyed their dynamic.
The prequels certainly had their faults too but they are masterpieces compared to 7-9.
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Bones said in TV Serieseseses:
So having moaned about Disney+ the other day, I've now got 3 months free. I
f I want to watch the Star Wars stuff that's not the mainstream movies, is there a particular order I should watch in?
Do you want to start with the good stuff or the bad?
If you want to start with the good then watch Mando S1 and Andor first, then Mando S2. Then wait for Andor S2 or watch the others in any order.
Actually, don't skip Book of Boba Fett though, it's interesting to see them completely ruin a show by making it another show and have that also signal the beginning of the decline of that other previously good show.
that probably sums it up pretty well
I really liked ahsoka (chopper might be my fav character in starwars) but know other didn't and might rely too much on things set up in the animated series
the acolyte...yeah....has lots of problems....but also has some of (one of?) the best lightsaber fights in all of star wars IMO and a bad guy they completely wasted
and skeleton crew is Goonies in space.....
I didn't mind Acolyte and Ahsoka, watchable but not outstanding. As long as they keep above the standard of the last movie/prequels then I'm easily pleased while noting I will happily grumpy old man about Filoni's influence on the franchise.
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Obi Wan show was not unlike BOBF, a bizarre mix of good and bad and
( Iāll throw in spoilers in case anyone hasnāt seen it )
ANOTHER fucken chick surviving being impaled by a lightsaber !!!!!I think the movie edit created by a fan is better than the actual show itself. Can't find it now but I assume someone posted it in this thread and that's how I found it.
@Kiwiwomble Yep, precedent was set a number of years ago with Maul, so no point complaining about surviving light saber wounds now.
the fan made movie edit of obiwan is much better too
im biting my tongue re the prequels....far from perfect but so much better than the sequeals
is it damning that there might actually be more "Bad" star wars than good?
No need to bite your tongue, I'm not policing you (and your wrongness).
I absolutely hate the prequels (I consider the last sequel one of the prequels in tone/style/quality too), took me until Covid to do a rewatch of them. They were worse than I remembered. I would happily watch The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi if I was on the couch and they were on, if the prequels come on I'd rather sit in silence contemplating everything that is wrong with the world.
Hmm, for me it will be Brilliant, Good, Average, Bad.
Brilliant: SW, ESB, Rogue 1, Andor, Mando 1&2
Good: TFA, TLJ, ROTJ
Average: Mando 3, Boba, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte
Bad: Prequels (including 9)I haven't seen Skeleton Crew or enough of the animated stuff to rate them.
The sequels are so shit compared to the prequels.
The way they shoehorned Palpatine in as the main villain was such bad writing ( even by SW standards )
āSomehow Palatine survivedā righto.
Awful, AWFUL characters. Rose, Holdo, the locksmithā¦.
Pretty rubbish characters. Finn, Po, Hux.
ā¦..and donāt get me started on what they did with Luke.
I did like Rey and Kylo Renn, I enjoyed their dynamic.
The prequels certainly had their faults too but they are masterpieces compared to 7-9.
I agree on the bold, which is one of the reasons why I always lump 9 in with the prequels.
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Bones said in TV Serieseseses:
So having moaned about Disney+ the other day, I've now got 3 months free. I
f I want to watch the Star Wars stuff that's not the mainstream movies, is there a particular order I should watch in?
Do you want to start with the good stuff or the bad?
If you want to start with the good then watch Mando S1 and Andor first, then Mando S2. Then wait for Andor S2 or watch the others in any order.
Actually, don't skip Book of Boba Fett though, it's interesting to see them completely ruin a show by making it another show and have that also signal the beginning of the decline of that other previously good show.
that probably sums it up pretty well
I really liked ahsoka (chopper might be my fav character in starwars) but know other didn't and might rely too much on things set up in the animated series
the acolyte...yeah....has lots of problems....but also has some of (one of?) the best lightsaber fights in all of star wars IMO and a bad guy they completely wasted
and skeleton crew is Goonies in space.....
I didn't mind Acolyte and Ahsoka, watchable but not outstanding. As long as they keep above the standard of the last movie/prequels then I'm easily pleased while noting I will happily grumpy old man about Filoni's influence on the franchise.
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Obi Wan show was not unlike BOBF, a bizarre mix of good and bad and
( Iāll throw in spoilers in case anyone hasnāt seen it )
ANOTHER fucken chick surviving being impaled by a lightsaber !!!!!I think the movie edit created by a fan is better than the actual show itself. Can't find it now but I assume someone posted it in this thread and that's how I found it.
@Kiwiwomble Yep, precedent was set a number of years ago with Maul, so no point complaining about surviving light saber wounds now.
the fan made movie edit of obiwan is much better too
im biting my tongue re the prequels....far from perfect but so much better than the sequeals
is it damning that there might actually be more "Bad" star wars than good?
No need to bite your tongue, I'm not policing you (and your wrongness).
I absolutely hate the prequels (I consider the last sequel one of the prequels in tone/style/quality too), took me until Covid to do a rewatch of them. They were worse than I remembered. I would happily watch The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi if I was on the couch and they were on, if the prequels come on I'd rather sit in silence contemplating everything that is wrong with the world.
Hmm, for me it will be Brilliant, Good, Average, Bad.
Brilliant: SW, ESB, Rogue 1, Andor, Mando 1&2
Good: TFA, TLJ, ROTJ
Average: Mando 3, Boba, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte
Bad: Prequels (including 9)I haven't seen Skeleton Crew or enough of the animated stuff to rate them.
The sequels are so shit compared to the prequels.
The way they shoehorned Palpatine in as the main villain was such bad writing ( even by SW standards )
āSomehow Palatine survivedā righto.
Awful, AWFUL characters. Rose, Holdo, the locksmithā¦.
Pretty rubbish characters. Finn, Po, Hux.
ā¦..and donāt get me started on what they did with Luke.
I did like Rey and Kylo Renn, I enjoyed their dynamic.
The prequels certainly had their faults too but they are masterpieces compared to 7-9.
I agree on the bold, which is one of the reasons why I always lump 9 in with the prequels.
Fair enough, didnāt spot that first time
Iād call the Last Jedi comfortably the worst SW film.
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Probably time to abandon the main storyline altogether now, and like Marvel focus on developing other characters in the SW universe
Agreed.
But I guess the Empire and the Rebellion will always get some kind of mention in passing.
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Probably time to abandon the main storyline altogether now, and like Marvel focus on developing other characters in the SW universe
Agreed.
But I guess the Empire and the Rebellion will always get some kind of mention in passing.
Which is fine, because they should always be the backdrop. But we don't need to focus on Luke, Leia, the Emperor etc. They can always shoehorn cameos for R2 and 3 PO because they always seem to get around
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TLJ is the worst of them all for me as a complete movie, sure some cool shots/scenes but the whole locksmith side quest...that was unnecessary...bombers in space....fuel running low?....the idea of sneaking a fleet of small ships off....in clear site of the bad guys...what they did to carrie fisher....she had died...give her a heros send off and make her force push all the other people that had been sucked off into space to safety rather than flying herself...what they did to lukes character...and just the idea of they went from the "new republic" to 6 ships and half a dozen leaders....yeah they destroyed half a dozen planets in the force awakens.....but the new republic cant have all been on those planets....no star destroyer type ships had been made in the 30 years since TrotJ?
I think the one thing they really stuffed up in TFA was rey immediately finding luke...the second movie should have been a treasure hunt across the galaxy to find him...and bring him back in the last one to face off with Ben and Snoke
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Probably time to abandon the main storyline altogether now, and like Marvel focus on developing other characters in the SW universe
agreed, there is so much wider universe stuff they could explore spread over thousands of years...just go far enough back or forward so continuity isn't a problem and kick on
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Bones said in TV Serieseseses:
So having moaned about Disney+ the other day, I've now got 3 months free. I
f I want to watch the Star Wars stuff that's not the mainstream movies, is there a particular order I should watch in?
Do you want to start with the good stuff or the bad?
If you want to start with the good then watch Mando S1 and Andor first, then Mando S2. Then wait for Andor S2 or watch the others in any order.
Actually, don't skip Book of Boba Fett though, it's interesting to see them completely ruin a show by making it another show and have that also signal the beginning of the decline of that other previously good show.
that probably sums it up pretty well
I really liked ahsoka (chopper might be my fav character in starwars) but know other didn't and might rely too much on things set up in the animated series
the acolyte...yeah....has lots of problems....but also has some of (one of?) the best lightsaber fights in all of star wars IMO and a bad guy they completely wasted
and skeleton crew is Goonies in space.....
I didn't mind Acolyte and Ahsoka, watchable but not outstanding. As long as they keep above the standard of the last movie/prequels then I'm easily pleased while noting I will happily grumpy old man about Filoni's influence on the franchise.
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Obi Wan show was not unlike BOBF, a bizarre mix of good and bad and
( Iāll throw in spoilers in case anyone hasnāt seen it )
ANOTHER fucken chick surviving being impaled by a lightsaber !!!!!I think the movie edit created by a fan is better than the actual show itself. Can't find it now but I assume someone posted it in this thread and that's how I found it.
@Kiwiwomble Yep, precedent was set a number of years ago with Maul, so no point complaining about surviving light saber wounds now.
the fan made movie edit of obiwan is much better too
im biting my tongue re the prequels....far from perfect but so much better than the sequeals
is it damning that there might actually be more "Bad" star wars than good?
No need to bite your tongue, I'm not policing you (and your wrongness).
I absolutely hate the prequels (I consider the last sequel one of the prequels in tone/style/quality too), took me until Covid to do a rewatch of them. They were worse than I remembered. I would happily watch The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi if I was on the couch and they were on, if the prequels come on I'd rather sit in silence contemplating everything that is wrong with the world.
Hmm, for me it will be Brilliant, Good, Average, Bad.
Brilliant: SW, ESB, Rogue 1, Andor, Mando 1&2
Good: TFA, TLJ, ROTJ
Average: Mando 3, Boba, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte
Bad: Prequels (including 9)I haven't seen Skeleton Crew or enough of the animated stuff to rate them.
The sequels are so shit compared to the prequels.
The way they shoehorned Palpatine in as the main villain was such bad writing ( even by SW standards )
āSomehow Palatine survivedā righto.
Awful, AWFUL characters. Rose, Holdo, the locksmithā¦.
Pretty rubbish characters. Finn, Po, Hux.
ā¦..and donāt get me started on what they did with Luke.
I did like Rey and Kylo Renn, I enjoyed their dynamic.
The prequels certainly had their faults too but they are masterpieces compared to 7-9.
I agree on the bold, which is one of the reasons why I always lump 9 in with the prequels.
Fair enough, didnāt spot that first time
Iād call the Last Jedi comfortably the worst SW film.
I like it, can kind of see why people don't though. I honestly think there's a small number of edits that can be made to it and people who don't like it would probably like it (removing the force projection, Mary Poppins, etc).
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@Bones said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
So up to episode 4 of Mando, really wasn't expecting the orcs to invade Hobbiton. Crazy.
without going back and confirming what happened in ep 4....im going assume that was hilarious
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Bones said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
So up to episode 4 of Mando, really wasn't expecting the orcs to invade Hobbiton. Crazy.
without going back and confirming what happened in ep 4....im going assume that was hilarious
Great to see an imperial walker again.
Mando and BOBF had a habit of shoehorning any old ugly fish faced baddies in when there werenāt any stormtroopers to shoot it has to be said.
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I stopped consuming SW content a long time ago now
But i re-watched Rogue One on the plane. Fuck that was well done. Hits you right in the feels at a couple of points when you know how it ends.
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@mariner4life and the only lightsabre in sight is an epic hallway scene
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obviously a fan idea...but thats a cool scene
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@Bones said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
So having moaned about Disney+ the other day, I've now got 3 months free. I
f I want to watch the Star Wars stuff that's not the mainstream movies, is there a particular order I should watch in?
Late to the party, but fwiw.
Watch the prequels, the originals, Rogue 1 Mandalorian S1 and 2 and then desperately pretend the final 3 films and Solo never existed because they are absolute shit.
I've heard Andor is good.
