Wallabies v Pumas, Perth
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Pretty good summary NTA.
Game was won in the first 20. Argentina's game isnt built for chasing the score - it is all too loose and their bench is mostly pretty weak.
Agreed on Cubelli and Landajo - sometimes these test coaches and their selections - e.g. how Mcmahon isnt further up the Aus loose forward pecking order is beyond me.
Aus defence was definitely impressive - though also helped with a big lead and an Argentinian side hampered by their starting halves and general talent in the backs.
Standouts for Aus looked to be Coleman, Genia, Hodge and McMahon. Kerevi was ok but looks better due to comparisons to TK.
Standouts for Arg were Creevy and Isa. They couldnt get Toucalet in the game enough.
One of Barnes' better performances I thought.
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@pakman said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Haven't watch recording -- yet! -- but from stats you'd think the Argies would have won comfortably.
The defence from us looked more like our RWC efforts instead of the shit served up the last few weeks. Much better line speed.
While the Pumas did have a lot of ball, it was fractured due to their own poor handling. When we got it back, we made some poor kicking decisions to hand it back to them
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Cooper is still a grub. I still don't think Hooper is that effective, a nuisance but not enough physical impact.
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What happened to the Pumas that played in Hamilton?
First thing to change is that away jersey - play the blue and white stripes lads.
Has to be very well done to the Wallabies. 3 tries in the first 5 minutes and you deserve a good win. That'll do them the world of good.
Actually pleased for the wallabies fans and the real ones will be stoked but wary that their lads need to own the games abroad.
Even when Barnes is right he's still a nasally git to listen too #willneverwarmtothatfluffybunny
Couldn't watch after halftime as the thought of listening to a gloating Kearns made me want to stab my scrotum with a rusty stanley knife as a means of distraction. Sorry Fox, scratch me off your glorious ratings strategy.
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@MN5 said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
@Bones said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Haaaa yeah Giteau, some fucken player....who wouldn't make anyones list of top players ever.
It's all relative. About the only good thing about Bernard Foley is you can nickname him Axel.
Ummm, sure it's relative. In relation to almost any other international top 12 of his era, Giteau was cake.
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Australian rugby writer Jim Tucker for the Courier-Mail was among those to heap praise on the Wallabies.
"Seven players flying into a fracas to stand up for Israel Folau is the feisty sign that the Wallabies can become winning road warriors even without David Pocock," Tucker wrote.
"When Folau refused to give up the ball to the Pumas when hustled over the sideline in the 16th minute, he was quickly set upon three-to-one.
"Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Pocock and Samu Kerevi were the first to join the congo line of wrestling, shoving and jersey-grabbing before more cavalry in gold arrived."
Former skipper Michael Hooper backed that attitude.
"We've had a lot of heat and some tough results this year and we want to stick up for each other in those situations," Hooper said.
"It was really pleasing to see everyone want to be a part of it and especially for someone like Izzy."
No-one was sin-binned in an unsightly incident that featured plenty of pushing and shoving.
Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball. -
@taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.
I'll just leave this here.
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That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.
Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).
Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.
Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."
Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?
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@nzzp said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
@taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.
I'll just leave this here.
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Of course that list would read a lot differently if New Zealand did not control world rugby to the extent that it does.
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@NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.
Habana has always been strong on the 'attempted intercept'. i'd wager a couple were for times when it wasn't that much of an attempt. he's also one of those players (fitzpatrick or read for us) who will happily attempt to kill the ball in a ruck if hard-pressed on defence to save a try. i'm kinda happy he has the yellow card record before he gets the try-scoring one.
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@taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Australian rugby writer Jim Tucker for the Courier-Mail was among those to heap praise on the Wallabies.
"Seven players flying into a fracas to stand up for Israel Folau is the feisty sign that the Wallabies can become winning road warriors even without David Pocock," Tucker wrote.
"When Folau refused to give up the ball to the Pumas when hustled over the sideline in the 16th minute, he was quickly set upon three-to-one.
"Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Pocock and Samu Kerevi were the first to join the congo line of wrestling, shoving and jersey-grabbing before more cavalry in gold arrived."
Former skipper Michael Hooper backed that attitude.
"We've had a lot of heat and some tough results this year and we want to stick up for each other in those situations," Hooper said.
"It was really pleasing to see everyone want to be a part of it and especially for someone like Izzy."
No-one was sin-binned in an unsightly incident that featured plenty of pushing and shoving.
Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.Something about that leaves me uncomfortable.
Kind of ... umm ... like ... is that all you've got Cheik? He's uncomfortably confrontational.
I've said before though it's good to have a loon back in international coaching
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Is that a piss take? I only read the bolded bit earlier. Stick up for your teammate that is committing a professional foul? Izzy set upon three-to-one? Ummm it was three guys trying to get the fucking ball off him. Very surprised Izzy wasn't sent to the bin for that, very cynical play in his own 22.
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@NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.
Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).
Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.
Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."
Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?
Good old Jamie Cudmore. What's not to like about a hot headed Canuck who eavesdrops on opposition forward huddles, get's sent off frequently and who makes his own wine with crazy labels ?
He should be every Rugby fans favourite player by far.....
