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    hard to know what to make of Australia's performance. They've been good defensively, but Argentina were so unimaginative, their 9/10 axis was as shit as I've evers een in an international. it didn't look hard to contain, but can't fault Oz for that. Pocock was as useless as Moore, McMahon and Polota-Nau the better options.

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    @No-Quarter said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    @NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    BOOOOOOOOOOM!

    Fuck that bloke can kick it.

    He didn't hold back either - could hear him grunt and leap as he punched it. Wish they showed the side-on view as I reckon that would have made another 10-15 metres.

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    @Tordah said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    hard to know what to make of Australia's performance. They've been good defensively, but Argentina were so unimaginative, their 9/10 axis was as shit as I've evers een in an international. it didn't look hard to contain, but can't fault Oz for that. Pocock was as useless as Moore, McMahon and Polota-Nau the better options.

    Bonus point win at home, holding a fairly handy opposition to 2 tries. After we conceded a couple of stupid yellow cards as well.

    Scrum started poorly after the first yellow card, but dominated by the end. Lineout was 100% I think? Didn't steal any. Defense was pretty bloody good for most of the first half, and attack had its moments. If Quade's wide passes were as good as his inside balls, we might have got to 50.

    McMahon made a huge difference when he came on. That kid is an animal and could easily be a link-style 8 (as opposed to a big bopper). So good in contact.

    For me the pleasing thing was defence. Where, last week, we kept our heads and got over the Boks despite a shaky start, this week we put all the points on and then had to withstand the pressure.

    As a result, Argies couldn't get their offload game going. That and because Cubelli is rubbish. Can't believe he started ahead of Landajo. Matera continues to impress, as does Leguizamon. Senatore had some nice touches. They got a heap of head knocks though and losing Creevy was a blow. Their outside backs just couldn't get involved because 9-10-12 weren't working well enough.

    Not a spectacular win, but a good win. I'll take it.

    ABs officially win TRC 2016 at this point.

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    Pretty good summary NTA.

    Game was won in the first 20. Argentina's game isnt built for chasing the score - it is all too loose and their bench is mostly pretty weak.

    Agreed on Cubelli and Landajo - sometimes these test coaches and their selections - e.g. how Mcmahon isnt further up the Aus loose forward pecking order is beyond me.

    Aus defence was definitely impressive - though also helped with a big lead and an Argentinian side hampered by their starting halves and general talent in the backs.

    Standouts for Aus looked to be Coleman, Genia, Hodge and McMahon. Kerevi was ok but looks better due to comparisons to TK.

    Standouts for Arg were Creevy and Isa. They couldnt get Toucalet in the game enough.

    One of Barnes' better performances I thought.

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    Apparently we had 28% possession. Fark!

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    Haven't watch recording -- yet! -- but from stats you'd think the Argies would have won comfortably.

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    @pakman said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    Haven't watch recording -- yet! -- but from stats you'd think the Argies would have won comfortably.

    The defence from us looked more like our RWC efforts instead of the shit served up the last few weeks. Much better line speed.

    While the Pumas did have a lot of ball, it was fractured due to their own poor handling. When we got it back, we made some poor kicking decisions to hand it back to them

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    Pocock broke his hand last night so no more Pooper. McMahon will give the loosies more balance.

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    Cooper is still a grub. I still don't think Hooper is that effective, a nuisance but not enough physical impact.

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    @Bones said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    Haaaa yeah Giteau, some fucken player....who wouldn't make anyones list of top players ever.

    It's all relative. About the only good thing about Bernard Foley is you can nickname him Axel.

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    What happened to the Pumas that played in Hamilton?

    First thing to change is that away jersey - play the blue and white stripes lads.

    Has to be very well done to the Wallabies. 3 tries in the first 5 minutes and you deserve a good win. That'll do them the world of good.

    Actually pleased for the wallabies fans and the real ones will be stoked but wary that their lads need to own the games abroad.

    Even when Barnes is right he's still a nasally git to listen too #willneverwarmtothatfluffybunny

    Couldn't watch after halftime as the thought of listening to a gloating Kearns made me want to stab my scrotum with a rusty stanley knife as a means of distraction. Sorry Fox, scratch me off your glorious ratings strategy.

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    Geez what is up with the pumas when facing the wallabies? They suck more often than not.

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    @MN5 said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    @Bones said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    Haaaa yeah Giteau, some fucken player....who wouldn't make anyones list of top players ever.

    It's all relative. About the only good thing about Bernard Foley is you can nickname him Axel.

    Ummm, sure it's relative. In relation to almost any other international top 12 of his era, Giteau was cake.

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    @Bones

    I assumed he was quite good but I did drink a lot while watching test rugby while he was playing, speaking of which he'll never have to buy a drink in Scotland again after his kicking efforts in 2009. What a glorious match that was.

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    Did the Pumas collect a few injuries in Hamilton? They lost Creevy and Leguizamon early in the second half which doesn't help

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    Australian rugby writer Jim Tucker for the Courier-Mail was among those to heap praise on the Wallabies.
    "Seven players flying into a fracas to stand up for Israel Folau is the feisty sign that the Wallabies can become winning road warriors even without David Pocock," Tucker wrote.
    "When Folau refused to give up the ball to the Pumas when hustled over the sideline in the 16th minute, he was quickly set upon three-to-one.
    "Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Pocock and Samu Kerevi were the first to join the congo line of wrestling, shoving and jersey-grabbing before more cavalry in gold arrived."
    Former skipper Michael Hooper backed that attitude.
    "We've had a lot of heat and some tough results this year and we want to stick up for each other in those situations," Hooper said.
    "It was really pleasing to see everyone want to be a part of it and especially for someone like Izzy."
    No-one was sin-binned in an unsightly incident that featured plenty of pushing and shoving.
    Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

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    @taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

    I'll just leave this here.

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    That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.

    Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).

    Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

    Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."

    Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?

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    @nzzp said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    @taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

    I'll just leave this here.

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    Of course that list would read a lot differently if New Zealand did not control world rugby to the extent that it does.

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    @NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

    Habana has always been strong on the 'attempted intercept'. i'd wager a couple were for times when it wasn't that much of an attempt. he's also one of those players (fitzpatrick or read for us) who will happily attempt to kill the ball in a ruck if hard-pressed on defence to save a try. i'm kinda happy he has the yellow card record before he gets the try-scoring one.

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