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    African Monkey
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    Wasted talent in the end which is a shame. Yeah he had defensive deficiencies (not the only one), but he never got a fair crack. He had all the skills to be a good fullback, but sadly in the last few years, they've always favored the hybrid 10/15s.

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    Foster had decided Stevenson wasn't up to it and Razor followed suit

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    @canefan said in Exodus:

    Foster had decided Stevenson wasn't up to it and Razor followed suit

    Beauden Barrett had utter rubbish defence when he started. Dane Coles was out of control. Good coaches make players better. Bad coaches discard them. Both those guys could have been thrown away and gone overseas.

    So far this year I am seeing little of the much hyped man management in the selections.

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    Steven Harris
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    Absolutely gutted we are losing Shooter ,been very privileged to have interviewed him on a few occassions in the last few years a really good bugger with an amazing skill set that is ready made for international rugby
    I could rattle off a list of All Blacks who were’nt the best defenders but the coaches at the time backed the rest of their skill sets to a job for the team

    Best wishes to a top man

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    A shame he never got a test at fullback. He was a better fullback than wing.

    Wish coaches in NZ saw the value in fullbacks with large punts.

    I'm surprised he stuck around as long as he did.

    Best of luck to him. A fine career in NZ.

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    Steven Harris
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    @KiwiMurph well said , in what world was Fihaki a better option than Stevenson ?

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    canefan
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    @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

    @KiwiMurph well said , in what world was Fihaki a better option than Stevenson ?

    Razorworld 😜

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    akan004
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    Would have solved our exit issues, had easily the biggest boot in NZ. Thanks Razor and Foster for picking your favourite has beens instead of giving Stevenson a go.

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    @akan004 seems like weird selections have pissed off supporters of the Blues (Sotutu, Riccitelli), Chiefs (Stevenson), Canes (Proctor/Lakai) so far. Nothing yet from Highlander country?

    The only happy people are fringe Cantabs at the moment.

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    Shame about Stevenson going, (say the same about anything that takes away depth) but I maybe not as gut wrenched as a few. I always thought he was a bloody good 15 with a good punt, but maybe seemed to go missing big times in quite a few games. Very much like Akira Ioane type player, perhaps had everything but that last 2% in mind department? Just my take, so don't shoot me. I honestly thing Chiefs will be well served with ENS at 15, but I not really a Chiefs man so obviously not deep into it.

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    How Fihaki was selected in front of Stevenson I will never know. As a Canes fan I always saw Stevenson as a class player and a bit of a thorn in our side when we play the Chiefs. Huge loss for NZ rugby IMO but wish him well on his next phase of his career.

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    African Monkey
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    @KiwiMurph said in Exodus:

    A shame he never got a test at fullback. He was a better fullback than wing.

    Wish coaches in NZ saw the value in fullbacks with large punts.

    I'm surprised he stuck around as long as he did.

    Best of luck to him. A fine career in NZ.

    It almost felt like they only picked him to get the public off their back whilst hoping that he failed at the same time so they had a reason not to pick him.

    Unfairly treated imo. Not saying he was a long term AB or anything, but deserved more than. 1 test

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    @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

    Robertson snub?

    Foster gave him a shot and then didn't pick him again, after he was playing even better at lower levels...he is the epitome of the comment 'plays one side' although certainly not the only one.

    Maybe, just maybe he was given work ons, but failed to meet the requirements?

    Have to assume that both Fozzie and Razor see something that didnt quite fit, kinda the same way these guys continually pick players we see as a poor fit...

    I hate losing players like him, but the hyperbolic headlines help no one.

    I get this

    But I want someone to explain the ways beauden Barrett is better than SS.

    Established players get so much more leeway than someone trying to get in.

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    brodean
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    @Dan54 said in Exodus:

    Shame about Stevenson going, (say the same about anything that takes away depth) but I maybe not as gut wrenched as a few. I always thought he was a bloody good 15 with a good punt, but maybe seemed to go missing big times in quite a few games. Very much like Akira Ioane type player, perhaps had everything but that last 2% in mind department? Just my take, so don't shoot me. I honestly thing Chiefs will be well served with ENS at 15, but I not really a Chiefs man so obviously not deep into it.

    Stevenson and ENS are both better than Fihaki and Reece. Reece has had ample opportunities but is a flake under the highball and lacks the pace to be an international winger plus he's a basically a crim that got two free passes.

    The double standards of these coaches boggles the mind.

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    @brodean said in Exodus:

    @Dan54 said in Exodus:

    Shame about Stevenson going, (say the same about anything that takes away depth) but I maybe not as gut wrenched as a few. I always thought he was a bloody good 15 with a good punt, but maybe seemed to go missing big times in quite a few games. Very much like Akira Ioane type player, perhaps had everything but that last 2% in mind department? Just my take, so don't shoot me. I honestly thing Chiefs will be well served with ENS at 15, but I not really a Chiefs man so obviously not deep into it.

    Stevenson and ENS are both better than Fihaki and Reece. Reece has had ample opportunities but is a flake under the highball and lacks the pace to be an international winger plus he's a basically a crim that got two free passes.

    The double standards of these coaches boggles the mind.

    Don't forget Reece getting burned in that French game. He's clearly lost a bit of pace.

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    akan004
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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    @brodean said in Exodus:

    @Dan54 said in Exodus:

    Shame about Stevenson going, (say the same about anything that takes away depth) but I maybe not as gut wrenched as a few. I always thought he was a bloody good 15 with a good punt, but maybe seemed to go missing big times in quite a few games. Very much like Akira Ioane type player, perhaps had everything but that last 2% in mind department? Just my take, so don't shoot me. I honestly thing Chiefs will be well served with ENS at 15, but I not really a Chiefs man so obviously not deep into it.

    Stevenson and ENS are both better than Fihaki and Reece. Reece has had ample opportunities but is a flake under the highball and lacks the pace to be an international winger plus he's a basically a crim that got two free passes.

    The double standards of these coaches boggles the mind.

    Don't forget Reece getting burned in that French game. He's clearly lost a bit of pace.

    Apparently experience will magically make up for his lost pace. Razor logic.

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    ARHS
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    Cant blame him after the unfathomable decision to promote Chay Fihaki ahead of him.

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    taniwharugby
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    @mariner4life absolutely, as I edited into my original post (that you had quoted) seems there are 'reasons' why they dont select player b, but then player a has same issues but keeps getting selected, often to start.

    Agree with @African-Monkey that it almost seemed Fozzie bowed to 'public pressure' and gave him his cap and when he didnt score a hundred tries, was an immediate failure.

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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    How Fihaki was selected in front of Stevenson I will never know.

    Pure speculation but perhaps his move was already signalled and there was no point picking him?

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    brodean
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    @booboo said in Exodus:

    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    How Fihaki was selected in front of Stevenson I will never know.

    Pure speculation but perhaps his move was already signalled and there was no point picking him?

    I believe Stevenson stuck around another year to see if he got any opportunities with the new coaching set up.

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