The Haka
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Marler now retiring from International Rugby. I do hope that it’s not because of this issue.
I see now that there has been suggestions online that NZ could be fined for advancing within 10m of the England line during the Haka. I guess theme the rules but how ludicrous has it all become?
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@Catogrande He was at Twickenham yesterday. He and Scott Robertson were having a good chinwag about something.
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@Catogrande huh? Didn't England advance first?
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@MajorRage said in The Haka:
@Bones both did.
This is the bullshit that puts me in the no Haka camp.
2 rules for me.
- Stay in your half.
- Opposition does what it wants.
I don't think anyone apart from WR have a problem with either team advancing. But we know that's exciting and makes people want to watch and that's against WR's ethos.
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@MajorRage said in The Haka:
@Bones both did.
This is the bullshit that puts me in the no Haka camp.
2 rules for me.
- Stay in your half.
- Opposition does what it wants.
I don't think anyone apart from WR have a problem with either team advancing. But we know that's exciting and makes people want to watch and that's against WR's ethos.
IIRC the crowd were busy singing their slave song and quickly stopped and started to roar when the ABs advanced. It was all part of the theatre of the match
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@Catogrande said in The Haka:
Marler now retiring from International Rugby. I do hope that it’s not because of this issue.
I see now that there has been suggestions online that NZ could be fined for advancing within 10m of the England line during the Haka. I guess theme the rules but how ludicrous has it all become?
I don't know why anyone thinks WR has rules for haka outside of WC. They don't, never have,they don't control what happens before tests,other than WCs, where they control all rematch stuff including how teams come on field, how anthems are done, and advertising. Outside of WC it is up to home union, they can scrap hakas,sivis or anything they want. There is no rules about anyone from advancing etc and never has been. Did anyone see Scotland/Fiji pregame? Fijians were up to halfway in a semi circle, and rightfully f*** all said.
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@Bones said in](/post/999994):
@Catogrande huh? Didn't England advance first?
yeah up to the halfway line and not within 10m of NZ, which I understood was the rules but as has been suggested, maybe that is only for RWC games? Dunno but all unclear and more importantly, unnecessary.
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@Catogrande I've always thought it was not past your own ten, since Cockerill. England always ruining it for the rest of us.
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@Catogrande I've always thought it was not past your own ten, since Cockerill. England always ruining it for the rest of us.
I think it was Willie Anderson’s Ireland team that did the first statement response.
NZ always blaming the mother country for…. whatever 😀
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@taniwharugby said in The Haka:
Tut tut tut, that’s just those uneducated, boofhead league players (can’t even bring myself to use the sacred word rugby).
Look at them being so angry and aggressive, won’t do anything for entertainment or viewership.
We here at the hallowed ground of Twickenham will keep our distances so we won’t be too tired for our tackle bag routines right after.
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Will be disappointing if the clear 3rd choice halfback is included for the sole purpose of Haka leading duties.
There's been plenty of non-Māori who have led it before (Tana, Mealamu). Ardie would have the requisite mana within the squad you would think. Ratima and Williams are young but would be excellent candidates too IMO.
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and on the Haka, watched rugby documentary "By the Balls" this week and good insight by Buck on how he changed the Haka in 1987
The Haka was pretty serious for many teams pre-Buck. The '63-64 haka was led by Mac Herewini & Waka Nathan and practiced to get it right. Non-playing AB's performed it in the stands to challenge the singing during games in Wales.
Faded away in the mid-late '60's and some of the "haka" in the early '70's was fucking embarrassing to watch.
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you mean like this one
