So, what HAS Michael Cheika actually done as a coach?
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<p>I'm beginning to think he got lucky last year.</p>
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<p>Im beginning to think he is on a similar level to Deans and McKenzie , who were also reasonably good coaches , and it really doesnt matter who coaches them , </p>
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He's certainly not Mr Charisma. Every interview he comes across as a sullen fluffybunny, offended that people have the temerity to ask him questions.
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<p>Apparently the ref has a lot to answer for according Krusty, <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/83634382/michael-cheika-takes-aim-at-officials-after-second-straight-all-blacks-defeat'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/83634382/michael-cheika-takes-aim-at-officials-after-second-straight-all-blacks-defeat</a></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="609918" data-time="1472329917"><p>Anyone got a link to his excuses clip? Previously I thought he'd been very magnanomous in defeat, certainly was in the WC final and last weeks test. Has he properly spit the dummy this time?</p></blockquote>
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The press conference with him and Moore is on Fox Sports Rugby website I think<br><br>
In which he and Moore both state their execution wasn't good enough. But that got missed here apparently because people prefer to read the story they want ;)<br><br>
Did Poite give out a warning to the ABs for a yellow card at any point? I know we got one after Alalaatoa collapsed (though it was an early push but the ABs). -
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<p>Agustin Pichot just giving SBW a quiet reminder about respect:<br><br>
Check out @AP9_'s Tweet: <a class="bbc_url" href="">
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<p>Agustins call was as bad as SBWs attempt at spelling Krustys name.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="609932" data-time="1472331925"><p>Agustins call was as bad as SBWs attempt at spelling Krustys name.</p></blockquote>
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Ah... No. SBW's tweet was that of a spoiled child. <br><br>
Pichot and the rest of the committee saw a team that won The Rugby Championship, and after being no certainty to get out it's pool, make a RWC final, through a mixture of attack (e.g. England), defence (e.g. Wales), and resolve. Despite being ranked as low as 6th, they got back to 2nd.<br><br>
Regardless of what happened this year to date, and despite the wondrous bullshit that is Crucial's Fashionista Showdown, that still stands as a decent achievement. -
It was a churlish tweet by SBW.<br><br>
Here's the facebook feed of the Wallaby post match conference; <a class="bbc_url" href="https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153903916581915&id=56918111914">https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153903916581915&id=56918111914</a> -
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Ah... No. SBW's tweet was that of a spoiled child. <br><br>
Pichot and the rest of the committee saw a team that won The Rugby Championship, and after being no certainty to get out it's pool, make a RWC final, through a mixture of attack (e.g. England), defence (e.g. Wales), and resolve. Despite being ranked as low as 6th, they got back to 2nd.<br><br>
Regardless of what happened this year to date, and despite the wondrous bullshit that is Crucial's Fashionista Showdown, that still stands as a decent achievement.</p></blockquote>
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A couple of decent points worth thinking about there, still don't think he was worthy of the award though.<br><br>
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<p>If Cheika is going to swear, he needs to learn to 'cough' or rub his nose or something. Standing up in the glass front coaches box and swearing repeatedly on camera is just not professional. And 'passion' is not an excuse. You can be passionate and still be professional - Cheika has been in the past.</p>
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<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mokey" data-cid="609970" data-time="1472336259"><p>If Cheika is going to swear, he needs to learn to 'cough' or rub his nose or something.</p></blockquote>
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He risks either losing a lung from coughing that much, or a bleeding nose. -
SBW should be get a twitter ban for that. Petty and childish. That shit taints the entire organization. We'd be going nuts here if an Aus player did something similar.<br><br>
Normally, you could blame it on a few Steinlagers (or craft beers if you're MN5)but SBW doesn't have that excuse. -
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<p>Im beginning to think he is on a similar level to Deans and McKenzie , who were also reasonably good coaches , and it really doesnt matter who coaches them , </p>
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<p>The Allblacks are better because they are better . </p>
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<p>Chieka's really having a (our) 1998 in 2016, at present. He'll be pretty desperate to win the next one at home vs the Boks, because if he doesn't the Pumas will smell blood in the water.</p>
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<p>I guess the main problem is that he's not got one Julian Savea to deal with, but a whole lot of guys who are going to be down on confidence.</p>
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<p>Reality is that it is bloody hard for a coach to win consistently if his cattle aren't as good and I'd say since 2005 we've simply had better players. The Aussies have closed the gap at times and picked up wins here and there - but, the only team that's genuinely been better than us during that period was Puppet's South African team of 2009. And our coaches didn't really find an answer to that.</p> -
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Chieka's really having a (our) 1998 in 2016, at present. He'll be pretty desperate to win the next one at home vs the Boks, because if he doesn't the Pumas will smell blood in the water.<br><br>
I guess the main problem is that he's not got one Julian Savea to deal with, but a whole lot of guys who are going to be down on confidence.<br><br>
Reality is that it is bloody hard for a coach to win consistently if his cattle aren't as good and I'd say since 2005 we've simply had better players. The Aussies have closed the gap at times and picked up wins here and there - but, the only team that's genuinely been better than us during that period was Puppet's South African team of 2009. And our coaches didn't really find an answer to that.</p></blockquote>
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Can't bold because im on mobile but just on the last line. IMO the way that Bok team beat us forced us into a rethink in the back three. Rather than playing Sivi and Rok we started to play the 2x Fullback model with a 'power' winger on the left. That was a big part of us winning in 2011 and since so would say they did come up with a way to answer it. -
<p>Chieka is becoming a bit of stereotype of the sore loser right now, kinda like my 10 year old who thinks its always someone elses fault.</p>
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<p>Then there is his conspiracy theories, think he might have an ally on TSF, and not any of our Aussie posters....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11701172'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11701172</a></p>
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<p>and the ref doesnt like us</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11701130'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11701130</a></p>
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<p>I used to be a huge fan of Moore, but since he became captain he a whiney little bitch and obviously the refs get sick of the way he speaks to them too...maybe Gregan needs to give hm lessons on ref management.</p> -
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<p>Can't bold because im on mobile but just on the last line. IMO the way that Bok team beat us forced us into a rethink in the back three. Rather than playing Sivi and Rok we started to play the 2x Fullback model with a 'power' winger on the left. That was a big part of us winning in 2011 and since so would say they did come up with a way to answer it.</p>
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<p>Yeah - I guess they did eventually. But, a significant part of the answer was finding better cattle to play under the new (ELV) rules.</p>
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<p>It was interesting though that they spent a season being out-coached by Puppet (who seemed to me to be about the least competent Tri-Nations coach of all time) and not finding the answers.</p> -
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