Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.

jegga

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Now hearing something about a pre-Test meeting that Hansen had with Poite. Wallabies weren't invited?
 
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I thought WR had put a stop to meetings with the ref a few years back?

jegga

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Broseph - there is getting some miles out of a story, and then there is
 
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I'm just getting warmed up mate.

Mattasaurus

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="609834" data-time="1472295528">Now hearing something about a pre-Test meeting that Hansen had with Poite. Wallabies weren't invited? 
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Outrageous. .. next it will be bugs in team hotels...

pukunui

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Outrageous. .. next it will be bugs in team hotels...</blockquote>
 
Im sure the Wallabies were listening in to the meeting with poite anyway. According to the Aussie coverage post game analysis 
the Wallabies aren't allowed to question the ref so no point attending if you have it recorded on tape.

antipodean

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mattasaurus" data-cid="609838" data-time="1472295754">Outrageous. .. next it will be bugs in team hotels...</blockquote>
Probably how they found out about it.

NTA

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I thought WR had put a stop to meetings with the ref a few years back? 
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Not sure about stopping it - just maybe some protocols about having everyone in the room?
 
Anyway, if they're worried about why Cheika wasn't invited, maybe they should try this:
 
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Who fo we have next? Argies? Wonder what changes there will be. Probably limited in the backs given the injuries. Maybe Pat T in and dome loosie rotation.
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I expect a few changes and some key players to be rested for the SA test the following week. Cruden/Sopoaga at 1st 5, Dixon for Kaino, Pat T/Romano to be in the 23.

Nepia

Haven't read over the thread yet but man Phil Kearns is a whiny bitch. You'd think Fox would ask him to tone it down because he makes Tony Johnson seem balanced for Crusaders/ Ta$man games (and Smithy for Magpies games).
 
You know what I'm actually glad when he cries like a little girl, because when he's like that I know we're kicking their ass.

pukunui

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Haven't read over the thread yet but man Phil Kearns is a whiny bitch. You'd think Fox would ask him to tone it down because he makes Tony Johnson seem balanced for Crusaders/ Ta$man games (and Smithy for Magpies games). 
You know what I'm actually glad when he cries like a little girl, because when he's like that I know we're kicking their ass.</blockquote>
 
Its really gone past his ususlly cheerleading one eyed stuff to flat out moaning hasn't it. Add nothing other than bitching and moaning and complaining about how much the opposition is cheating. Both games this year he has addressed Crocket as "one of the most penalised props in the world" just petty shit. Foxsports need to reign him in, how is that good for growing the game?

jegga

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Haven't read over the thread yet but man Phil Kearns is a whiny bitch. You'd think Fox would ask him to tone it down because he makes Tony Johnson seem balanced for Crusaders/ Ta$man games (and Smithy for Magpies games).
 
You know what I'm actually glad when he cries like a little girl, because when he's like that I know we're kicking their ass.
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This, imagine what a fuckstick he would be if they were winning.

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But Moore was such a gentleman!!!

Nepia

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Funny, that some see this in him as he doesn't remind me one bit of Alatini - I see him more as a recent Ngatai or early Mauger (2002ish) type player, calm as but can take a break and crunch it up if need be. 
 
I thought he had a good game, I certainly can't remember him being lost in the first half as ACT is implying. 
 
Of the lineouts that Whitelock didn't pinch at least 3 of them were not straight. The refs clearly don't care about not straight anymore.
 
Oh, and as for the niggle. That was just dumb shit from Oz, Chieka is an idiot. All it did was cost them 10 minutes in the bin and a string of penalties. It was just stupid stuff that you'd think Chieka would have put a stop to at half time but they just bumbled along. Pocock is not an 8 and he may pilfer a lot of ball but he lies across the ruck likes he's one of the English loose forwards in the early 90s. I've firmed up even more on having Cane than him or Hooper after this match (in a theoretical world). 
 
Poite is just a random ref and I tend to think his random decisions balance out in the end.
 
It wasn't a smashing but a four tries to none win is still a good thing, so I'm happy.

Rancid Schnitzel

I forget who mentioned the it, but I liked a post about Cruden not being the best option as a sub. To me he either starts or doesn't make the 23. Imh Lima offers alot more impact as a sub. 
But the most important thing is that Barrett should stay at 10. He is farking killing it right now, and sending him to fb is just a waste.

NTA

Talk that Franks might be in a bit of strife for his work on Douglas' head in a maul. Poite saw it at the time and told Franks to get off the head. Which he did eventually but probably couldn't hear at the time.

Rembrandt

Totally agree re Barrett. Cruden's good but doesn't add anything extra than Barrett, just unnecessary disruption. Not sure that Sopoanga would be any different.

NTA

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But the most important thing is that Barrett should stay at 10. He is farking killing it right now, and sending him to fb is just a waste.
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Honestly, you'd be fucking mad to put him anywhere else right now. Particularly as settling on a midfield is a little tricky otherwise.

Crucial

Officials apparently send a runner to find Cheika for the refs meeting. He came back saying the only guy he could find was a scruffy truck driver mumbling to himself

Samurai Jack

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Talk that Franks might be in a bit of strife for his work on Douglas' head in a maul. Poite saw it at the time and told Franks to get off the head. Which he did eventually but probably couldn't hear at the time.
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There was no reaction at all from recipient at the time. I think I would like to hear from the Aussie player before making a judgement.

NTA

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There was no reaction at all from recipient at the time. I think I would like to hear from the Aussie player before making a judgement.
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Yeah both of them looked like they were a bit busy trying to do their thing. Doubt whether its a deliberate eye gouge, so throw it into the judiciary lottery and spin the wheel!

ACT Crusader

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Tonight I felt they competed much better and could have had a score or two with better players. Certainly a better effort from last week. 
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Do the Aussie selectors know what their best backline is, even when everyone is fit? 
If Mitchell were fit would he be starting ahead of DHP? Toomua or Giteau? Kurindrani was fit but yet lost his spot to a rookie. If Foley is the answer at 10 then surely he should have stayed there and gone with Kerevi (who played 12 vs England) and TK and had Cooper off the bench. Genia has looked okay, but Phipps has been the preferred man playing almost 80 in previous tests.

The Silver Fern

Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.