Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)
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<p>Got a bit ragged in the 2nd stanza. Surprised Ardie didn't come on earlier... but Cane was awesome so that is what it is.</p>
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<p>I was thinking they might be holding Ardie back in case we lost another back and he had to play wing. </p> -
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<p>The only negative for me , I'm concerned for the state of international rugby if this starts becoming the norm, we play them more than anyone .<br><br>
its funny , I remember back in the late 90s early 2000s and I was wanting the old days to return when we used to beat them with ease. .<br><br>
Careful what you wish for .</p>
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<p>Yeah I got this feeling as well, normally I'm pretty emphatic after that sort of performance but that sort of loss was had me a little flat, I'm worried what SA will bring to the table too now with the transformation influence. </p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="607658" data-time="1471735005">
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<p>Who will the replacement hookers be? Parsons and Dixon? Is Hika Elliot fit?</p>
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<p>Yes there will be some very excited hookers around the country after last night.</p> -
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Fuck. Usually you can point out a a weakness or two in a game and yell for a change of personnel or coaching staff. Not this time. Only watched the first half and I am almost sure my club side today could have given a better run for their money. <br><br>
There is absolutely nothing to lose from now on, so I would suggest maybe bringing those young guns, Hodge, Kerevi and Timani in to the 23 and dropping either of the hobbits from the back row to get some size in the side.<br><br>
Who was the fucker who predicted the Wobs would win? :hi: :embarrassed:</p></blockquote>
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That would be me. :embarrassed:<br><br>
Understand that I live in Australia and all the talk has been of a quietly confident, well-prepared team with the overseas legends back to make them awesome. The game was also in Sydney and Cheika is the greatest coach ever. -
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<p>We're probably going to have Giteau, Toomua, and Horne out. Can't really throw away the rest of the team as there isn't much else, but a reshuffle is required.</p>
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<p>Why don't they play AAC at Centre? He's better than Kurindrani, and is too old and slow for wing.</p> -
One thing i noticed last night was the lack of kicking we did. Showed a real shift away from the use of the high ball and kicking out of our half that has worked really well recently. This game we just held the ball and got a march on. Must be a nightmare playing against a tram that can so effectively change up game plans. <br><br>
I don't have too many concerns for international rugby. Its all a cycle. England seem to be on the up, Lions next year and by the next rwc Aust and Boks will have gone through some change but should be on the way back up. Argies seem to change week to week but super rugby should eventually improve their game. -
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<p>not just a great fend by Crotty but also a Vulcan neck pinch!</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="607669" data-time="1471736771"><p>I thought Leroy Houston was back in the picture?</p></blockquote>
Think he's around. Not sure, after the returning-from-Europe performances here, that he will add anything. -
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<p>One thing i noticed last night was the lack of kicking we did. Showed a real shift away from the use of the high ball and kicking out of our half that has worked really well recently. This game we just held the ball and got a march on. Must be a nightmare playing against a tram that can so effectively change up game plans.<br><br>
I don't have too many concerns for international rugby. Its all a cycle. England seem to be on the up, Lions next year and by the next rwc Aust and Boks will have gone through some change but should be on the way back up. Argies seem to change week to week but super rugby should eventually improve their game.</p>
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<p>No point kicking when you're playing a team that can't tackle.</p>
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<p>All the late nights and early mornings following the Olympics this week took their toll last night and I ended up falling asleep early (a pathetic Saturday night), so I had to watch the game this morning instead. Christ. The ABs were monstrous but fuck, that was the softest Aussie team I've ever seen. They looked terrified of contact, clueless at the set piece and flat on attack. I felt embarrassed for them and the post-game coverage legitimately felt like a funeral. It really puts England's whitewash into perspective, I'd expect the Argies to whitewash them too if this keeps up.</p>
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<p>As for the ABs, Coles, BBBR, Read, Cane, Crockett, Whitelock, Barrett, Crotty, Naholo and Cruden were class.</p>
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<p>The downside to such a one sided game like that though, is that I don't really think any of the question marks were really answered. I'm still not sure about Fekitoa, TJP on the bench or Savea. It has made me wonder how Cruden might work at 12 though.</p> -
<p>I wonder when we will hear the outcome of the 'espionage'?</p>
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<a class="bbc_url" href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/83394663/Banged-up-All-Blacks-are-seeking-reinforcements-for-Saturdays-clash-with-Australia">Banged up All Blacks are seeking reinforcements for Saturday's clash with Australia</a><br><br>
Crotty had a head knock. -
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<p>I wonder when we will hear the outcome of the 'espionage'?</p>
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<p>Bet the aussies hear about it first..</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="607727" data-time="1471749192">
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<p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/83394663/Banged-up-All-Blacks-are-seeking-reinforcements-for-Saturdays-clash-with-Australia">Banged up All Blacks are seeking reinforcements for Saturday's clash with Australia</a><br><br>
Crotty had a head knock.</p>
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<p>Call up Jordie Barrett to #12.</p>
<p>Beauden at #10, Jordie at #12. If the Aussies thought one Barrett was hard yakka, they'll shit the bed when they line-up against two. (seriously this might just happen in the future, maybe around 2018 EOYT)</p> -
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<p>not just a great fend by Crotty but also a Vulcan neck pinch!</p>
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<p>Looks more like a throat rip! Nice
I heard DHP had a disappointing game :(</p>
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<p>In any case, where to from here for the Wallabies?</p>
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<p>Giteau: syndemosis so he's out for TRC. His French club won't be happy either because those things can heal bloody slowly.</p>
<p>Horne: dislocated shoulder - out for TRC.</p>
<p>Toomua: another concussion. Leicester must also be a bit nervous because he's had a few.</p>
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<p>Other than that, the previously mentioned reshuffle. Personally, I think we need to abandon the Pooper for a while as a starting point, and see if playing a "traditional" back row is going to make a difference in terms of balance across the park.</p>
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<p>Its not necessarily because of the reported lineout woes - fact is, Simmons is meant to be some kind of lineout god, but is clearly not. Someone over on GAGR made the (rather idiotic) statement that "3 jumpers never beats 4!" which is just rubbish - you can if you're good enough. We weren't.</p>
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<p>1 Slipper<br>
2 Moore - last warning for captaincy. Improve or hand it over<br>
3 Kepu<br>
4 Douglas<br>
5 Simmons<br>
6 Fardy<br>
7 Pocock<br>
8 McCalman/Timani<br>
9 Genia<br>
10 Cooper<br>
11 Mitchell<br>
12 Kerevi<br>
13 AAC<br>
14 DHP<br>
15 Folau<br><br>
16 TPN<br>
17 Sio<br>
18 Alaalatoa (though I'd like Robertson to have a go, apparently the incumbent did alright)<br>
19 Coleman<br>
20 Timani/McMahon<br>
21 Hoopah<br>
22 Phipps<br>
23 Foley</p>
