The Rugby Championship 2016
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<p>shit, i would have picked van rensburg no doubt at all.</p>
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<p>don't want to say it's a quota thing though, as south african selections have always left me confused - eg smit, matfield etc well past their best.</p>
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<p>It reminds me of when De Allende was on fire and they were picking Jan Serfontein on all the time.</p> -
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<p>Without SBW, our midfield is arguably the weakest in the Championship now bar Argentina. Can't think of an obvious (2nd five) replacement for him either.</p>
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<p>it's what? who are the great Australian pair we need to watch out for?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="604547" data-time="1470783502">
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<p>it's what? who are the great Australian pair we need to watch out for?</p>
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<p>we've also been helped out by the saffas not picking their best 12.</p> -
<div><strong>Pumas squad:</strong></div>
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<div>(Player - position - (contracted to) - no. of caps)</div>
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<div>1 TETAZ CHAPARRO, NAHUEL 01 - PILAR (UAR) 25 caps</div>
<div>2 GARCIA BOTTA, SANTIAGO 01 - PILAR (UAR) 9 caps</div>
<div>3 NOGUERA PAZ, LUCAS 01 - PILAR (UAR) 23 caps</div>
<div>4 BOSCH, FACUNDO 02 - HOOKER (UAR) 2 caps</div>
<div>5 CREEVY, AGUSTIN 02 - HOOKER (UAR) 49 caps</div>
<div>6 MONTOYA, JULIAN 02 - HOOKER (UAR) 19 caps</div>
<div>7 HERRERA, RAMIRO 03 - PILAR (UAR) 22 caps</div>
<div>8 PIERETTO, ENRIQUE 03 - PILAR (UAR) 3 caps</div>
<div>9 ALEMANO MATIAS 04 - SEGUNDA LINEA (UAR) 21 caps</div>
<div>10 KREMER, MARCOS 04 - SEGUNDA LINEA (UAR) -</div>
<div>11 LAVANINI, TOMAS 04 - SEGUNDA LINEA (UAR) 28 caps</div>
<div>12 PETTI, GUIDO 04 - SEGUNDA LINEA (UAR) 15 caps</div>
<div>13 LEGUIZAMON, JUAN MANUEL 06 - ALA (UAR) 68 caps</div>
<div>14 LEZANA, TOMAS 06 - ALA (UAR) 8 caps</div>
<div>15 MATERA, PABLO 06 - ALA (UAR) 25 caps</div>
<div>16 ORTEGA DESIO, JAVIER 06 - ALA (UAR) 22 caps</div>
<div>17 SENATORE, LEONARDO 08 - OCTAVO (UAR) 36 caps</div>
<div>18 CUBELLI, TOMAS 09 - MEDIO SCRUM (BRUMBIES) 48 caps</div>
<div>19 EZCURRA, FELIPE 09 - MEDIO SCRUM (UAR) 3 caps</div>
<div>20 ISA, FACUNDO 08 - OCTAVO (UAR) 16 caps</div>
<div>21 LANDAJO, MARTIN 09 - MEDIO SCRUM (UAR) 56 caps</div>
<div>22 GONZALEZ IGLESIAS, SANTIAGO 10 - APERTURA (UAR) 22 caps</div>
<div>23 SANCHEZ, NICOLAS 10 - APERTURA (UAR) 42 caps</div>
<div>24 CORDERO, SANTIAGO 11 - WING (UAR) 21 caps</div>
<div>25 MONTERO, MANUEL 11 - WING (UAR) 24 caps</div>
<div>26 MOYANO, RAMIRO 11 - WING/FULLBACK (UAR) 8 caps</div>
<div>27 ASCARATE, GABRIEL 12 - CENTRO (UAR) 17 caps</div>
<div>28 DE LA FUENTE, JERONIMO 12 - CENTRO (UAR) 21 caps</div>
<div>29 HERNANDEZ, JUAN MARTIN 12 - CENTRO (UAR) 60 caps</div>
<div>30 MORONI, MATIAS 12 - CENTRO (UAR) 11 caps</div>
<div>31 ORLANDO, MATIAS 12 - CENTRO/WING (UAR) 11 caps</div>
<div>32 GONZALEZ AMOROSINO, LUCAS 15 - FULLBACK (UAR) 50 caps</div>
<div>33 TUCULET, JOAQUIN 15 - FULLBACK (UAR) 31 caps</div>
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<div><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4855'>http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4855</a></div>
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<div>With the help of Google translate, I understand from the Pumas website that debutant Marcos Kremer played with their U20s team in Manchester.</div>
<div>They will take a squad of 26 players to South Africa and 28 players to Australia and New Zealand.</div>
<div>It's the first time that every player in the squad has played Super Rugby (32 players for the Jaguares and Cubelli for the Brumbies).</div>
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<div>By the way, I read the comments on the Argentinian Rugby Union (UAR)'s Facebook page and many Argentinian fans are quite angry about playing a home game in London.</div> -
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<p>Without SBW, our midfield is arguably the weakest in the Championship now bar Argentina. Can't think of an obvious (2nd five) replacement for him either.</p>
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<p>I'd bet on Crotty and Fekitoa but I'd like to see Moala there or there abouts after his impressive cameo vs Wales</p> -
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<p>Where is Van Rensburg the 12? He needs to be in the squad ASAP.</p>
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<p>Not good enough yet according to AC, at least he will be available to smack some bitches in the CC.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="604547" data-time="1470783502"><p>it's what? who are the great Australian pair we need to watch out for?</p></blockquote>
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You know mariner, that pair that sliced and diced England up the middle of the park and stopped any ball carrier in their tracks....<br><br>
Kurindrani has been extremely out of form this season for both Brumbies and Wallabies. Toomua who I rate has had injury concerns so was unavailable for the start of the England series. That young Qlder did okay for a debutante but they don't yet know if he is a 12 or 13 or should play him on the wing. <br><br>
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<p>Kuridrani is a myth. He was good for one season, a couple of years ago. For a big unit you can count his linebreaks in a year on the fingers of a careless piranha fisherman. He's not even a great line bender.</p>
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<p>Toomua is pretty good, but has stalled while he's been injured. And they'll rissole him for Giteau anyway. No wonder he is fucking off overseas. </p> -
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<p>Kuridrani is a myth. He was good for one season, a couple of years ago. For a big unit you can count his linebreaks in a year on the fingers of a careless piranha fisherman. He's not even a great line bender.</p>
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<p>did he cop an injury that just hasn't come right or something? because he was really bloody good that one year, and has been very ordinary since.</p> -
<p>Teams named for Springboks v Pumas (Sun 21/8, 3.05am NZT):</p>
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<div><strong>Springboks</strong></div>
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<div>15 Johan Goosen, 14 Ruan Combrinck, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Elton Jantjies, Faf de Klerk, </div>
<div>8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Teboho Mohoje, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Julian Redelinghuys, 2 Adriaan Strauss (c) , Tendai Mtawarira</div>
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<div>Reserves: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 20 Jaco Kriel, 21 Rudy Paige, 22 Juan de Jongh, 23 Jesse Kriel.</div>
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<div><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.sarugby.co.za/article.aspx?category=sarugby/springboks&id=3665344'>http://www.sarugby.co.za/article.aspx?category=sarugby/springboks&id=3665344</a></div>
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<div><strong>Pumas</strong></div>
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<div>15 JoaquÃn Tuculet, 14 Santiago Cordero, 13 MatÃas Orlando, 12 Juan MartÃn Hernández, 11 Manuel Montero, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 MartÃn Landajo, </div>
<div>8 Facundo Isa, 7 Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 MatÃas Alemanno, 3 Ramiro Herrera, 2 AgustÃn Creevy (c), 1 Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro</div>
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<div>Reserves: 16 Julián Montoya, 17 Felipe Arregui, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Guido Petti, 20 Javier Ortega Desio, 21 Tomás Cubelli, 22 Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, 23 Ramiro Moyano</div>
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<div><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.sanzarrugby.com/therugbychampionship/news/trc-rd-1-50th-cap-for-creevy-against-boks/'>http://www.sanzarrugby.com/therugbychampionship/news/trc-rd-1-50th-cap-for-creevy-against-boks/</a></div> -
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<p>i still can't believe they didn't pick van rensburg, best 12 in the comp and an established combination with the 10 and 13 selected. farkin dummies.</p>
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<p>Skin tone problem I suspect.</p>