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    @arhs said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    @bovidae Great to hear. Quinn is another of our Papamoa boys.

    I thought Collard went to GBHS?

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    @bovidae Left Papamoa College for Rotorua Boys I think

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    @arhs It appears Collard is well travelled.

    Quinn Collard was educated at Papamoa College, Rotorua Boys’ High School and Gisborne Boys’ High School, featuring in the Chiefs Under 18’s for two years. 
    
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    One of those is very under-whelming.

    Good to see Ranger should tick up his hundred!

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    @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    One of those is very under-whelming.

    Good to see Ranger should tick up his hundred!

    At least Gregory has ‘midfielder’ next to his nae, rather than outside back!

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    @taniwharugby Ranger has been released by the Crusaders as injury cover , but has picked up a contract in Japan playing for the Panasonic Wild Knights coached by Robbie Deans, he flys out in 2 weeks .
    He will be back before the start of the Mitre 10 Cup .
    Ranger apparently had some very interesting observations of the Crusaders , said their attention to detail is next level ,they review games played as entire squad on iPads which includes the academy players going over situations where better decisions could have been made

    And then leading up to a game ,a lot of analysis is spent on opposition tactics, which includes set piece moves , both scrum and lineout ,how the fast they move ball along the line , and where players are defending especially off multiple phases .
    I must admit , none of this comes as a surprise to me , but does bring up the old question..Why is Scott Robertson not the All Black coach ..?

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    @steven-harris hopefully he will bring back some of those learnings ( @Snowy @booboo ) home, I expect possibly a bit late to help him too much 😉 but certainly should be able to give the Northland coaches some insight and advice!

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    @taniwharugby i wonder how different his career may have been if he got picked up by the Crusaders at a younger age ..?.look at the player Berryman became when he joined the Crusaders ..

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    @steven-harris said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    but does bring up the old question..Why is Scott Robertson not the All Black coach ..?

    That wasn't the question I was expecting...I was expecting....why does nobody else do this?

    Do you know the ABs don't?

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    @bones the devil is in the detail , whatever Robertson puts to this Crusaders group seems to work very well..Currently All Black coach , record suggests otherwise 🤔

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    @steven-harris said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    @bones the devil is in the detail , whatever Robertson puts to this Crusaders group seems to work very well..Currently All Black coach , record suggests otherwise 🤔

    Let's line up the ABs against some super teams then eh, then we can really judge...

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    @taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    @steven-harris hopefully he will bring back some of those learnings ( @Snowy @booboo ) home, I expect possibly a bit late to help him too much 😉 but certainly should be able to give the Northland coaches some insight and advice!

    Next you will contra beaut

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    @bones said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    @steven-harris said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    @bones the devil is in the detail , whatever Robertson puts to this Crusaders group seems to work very well..Currently All Black coach , record suggests otherwise 🤔

    Let's line up the ABs against some super teams then eh, then we can really judge...

    ABs minus Crusaders vs Crusaders would be close

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    @machpants with the 2 best coaches at the helm of each team ..Robertson and Brown 🤔😜

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    Harrison Allan and Samu Tawake have signed with the Turbos

    Full list of signings so far:
    https://www.turbosrugby.co.nz/news/allan-and-tawake-commit-to-turbos

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    @bobily2 so with Harrison Allan and Brett Cameron signing with the Turbos, I wonder if this means they are likely to sign for the Canes next year...

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/300265503/mitre-10-cup-current-npc-format-locked-in-for-at-least-another-season

    The format of the men’s national provincial competition (NPC) will remain unchanged for at least another year.

    New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has been pushing for change since late last year, but ran out of time to convince key stakeholders to pull the trigger on change for the 2021 season.

    Pushing for change never works. Convincing all involved with good arguments is something else.

    “We had been active in suggesting that change was positive for a number of different reasons for 2021, however, there is strong consideration for that change to be made in 2022 onwards,” NZR boss Mark Robinson said on Tuesday.

    The NZR Players’ Association and broadcaster Sky are two key stakeholders who must give the green light for change.

    NZR and the provincial unions have been entertaining a major revamp since early November, including potentially splitting the 14-team competition into North and South pools.

    The current format, which includes a premiership and championship with a promotion-relegation system, has been in play since 2011, but a review into the provincial game, known as the Nga Miro Report, recommended changes.

    Canterbury coach Reuben Thorne and Wellington counterpart Leo Crowley have both expressed a desire for the premiership and championship model to be axed, meaning all 14 teams are eligible to win the title.

    Canterbury and Wellington? Hmmm, afraid of relegation?

    Status quo confirms promotion for Hawke’s Bay into the premiership, while demoted North Harbour will replace the Magpies in the championship.

    “We had looked at a range of different options around a potential conference model, and when we socialised that with some key stakeholders they expressed a view in terms of how late we were getting in the overall nature of the change, that they want more time to consider that. So, we’ve pushed that back to being considered for 2022 onwards,” Robinson said.

    I'd like to know what those options are. I can only remember them presenting one, the north-south option. What were the others they considered?

    Facing a $40 million financial hit in 2020 due to the Covid-19 pandemic, slashing costs was primarily behind exploring a major revamp, although dwindling crowds and a general drop in interest also played a part.

    It’s understood the north-south option would save about $700,000 on travel and accommodation in the men’s NPC.

    They've never been transparent about which provinces would benefit from those savings and by how much. It was clear from comments that provinces in the North pool would benefit, but those in the South pool wouldn't or not as much.

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    @canes4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    @bobily2 so with Harrison Allan and Brett Cameron signing with the Turbos, I wonder if this means they are likely to sign for the Canes next year...

    I hope so

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    @stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    I'd like to know what those options are. I can only remember them presenting one, the north-south option. What were the others they considered?

    I think having a Pool A and Pool B might be the way to go in the future. You could allocate the teams for each pool based on seedings from the previous year. For example, using 2020, Ta$man and BOP in Pool A, Auckland and Waikato in Pool B, etc. The top 2 teams in each pool play cross-over SFs to decide the finalists. In this format you play all teams in your pool as well as some cross-over games but (in theory) every team has a chance to win the Premiership title. This format wouldn't necessarily save NZR and the provinces money, if that is the goal, but does provide a more inclusive NPC.

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    @bovidae I agree that could be a good format, but I haven't seen anywhere which options they considered, and whether the one you suggest was one of them. They've been pushing that north-south division; nothing else it seems.

    I'd also like another piece of silverware to play for if they get rid of the Premiership/Championship format. Maybe something like in sevens. The top 4 (or top 2 if two conferences) play for the Cup and the next 4 play for a Plate. Some teams will never be good enough to play for the Cup. It would be good if they can get a shot at a Plate. Or follow the example of the Heartland comp, with its Meads and Lochore Cup.

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