NPC - news, injuries etc
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@Hooroo Of last year's four Championship semi-finalists, that only applied to Northland.
But frankly, I don't care. If the comp consists of a higher and a lower division, cross-over games distort the points table.
I only like the cross-over games for the entertainment factor, if the games are reasonably close. If the lower division team gets absolutely butchered, that's just not fun anymore.
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@mariner4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
Don't tell me what i care about. I care about BOP games more than any other level of rugby. In fact the overly-regular BOP fuck up loss pisses me off more than any other sporting result.
Sorry, you seem to separate the competition as a whole from individual matches of your team. You only seem to care about the latter. I don't separate competition from individual games of my team, and that's why I watch each and every game (except the odd Southland game). Obviously, more emotion is attached to my team's games, but all the other games affect their position on the table and, therefore, matter to me as well.
However that's not what you were talking about, you were talking about engagement with a competition. When the same team plays the final every year, and wins 3 out of every 4, is that really a competition that captures the excitement? note i said competition, not individual games by the union you support.
The same team playing the final every year is only something happening in the Premiership Division; not in the Championship Division, which I was most concerned about. Also, what happens at the top of the Premiership Division is not going to change in the new structure. If Canterbury, or Auckland, or Wellington or Ta$man have dominated the Premiership Dvision (semi)finals the last few years, they're likely to do the same in a single table competition.
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Just found the forum, loving these Provincial updates, player signings etc. Anyone know if Jordan Manihera is coming back for Mitre 10?
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Some Northland news:
Renata Roberts-Te Nana (Old Boys-Marist, outside back) re-signed with Northland for 2019, Aorangi Stokes (Old Boys-Marist, loose forward) and Sam McNamara (Waipu, loose forward) re-signed through 2020
New signing, Harrison Levien (Old Boys-Marist, halfback) for 2019 season.
Scott Gregory (Hikurangi) recommitted to Northland through 2022!
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@matty_kcrams Hi there, welcome to the Silver Fern Forum!
I keep a list of player/coach signings, re-signings, departures etc.. Obviously, it's not complete because not all signings are officially announced and contract durations are also not always published. Unfortunately, I have no information about Manihera still being under contract with Waikato, and am also not sure about his current whereabouts (whether he's still in the USA or not).
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@Crucial said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
I like the single table structure but NOT the prospect of an uneven draw where everyone doesn't play everyone. That is the worst aspect of Super Rugby when it went to the conference system and why people turned off it.
The 'less strong' provinces in particular have ebbs and flows in their strength through the years and some will get a hard draw in the very year they peak. Vice versa an average team could get into finals due to a favourable draw in comparison to rivals.I thought the 2 divisions was a great set up. Unsure why it has been changed. Although it is the NZRU so am not surprised
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harbourrugby:
PRE-SEASON FIXTURE: Game of 3 Halves
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Tomorrow night the QBE North Harbour Wider Training Group will play a pre-season fixture in a game of three halves against over the bridge rivals, Auckland, and Japanese touring side, Honda HEAT. .
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Monday 27th May 2019.
📍 East Coast Bays, Windsor Park
⏰ 6:00pm Game 1 (North Harbour v Honda)
⏰ 6:55pm Game 2 (North Harbour v Auckland)
⏰ 7:50pm Game 3 (Auckland v Honda) -
F*ck them! Really great if you can't live in your home province and go to games!
New Zealand Rugby will ask Sky TV to consider a domestic competition where some games aren’t shown live. The radical shift is being driven by a survey of 2500 fans around the shape of the Mitre 10 Cup as NZR prepares to go the broadcast market after the existing deals expires this year. Sky is in the box seat but they are no longer the only option, with Spark keen to increase its sports coverage. NZR’s head of participation and development, Steve Lancaster, told me on Radio Sport that the survey showed fans like the Mitre Cup, its format and the fact it’s a national competition. “But it doesn’t take a lot to figure out that crowds have declined at matches over recent years.” One reason for that is Sky’s saturation coverage - something NZR now wants to reconsider. “One thing we are considering and are putting to them (the fans surveyed) is ‘are the times of days and days of the week this competition is played something that is impacting your decision as to whether you want to go along and watch’? “What we are hearing is more afternoon games would be positive and more games on the weekend. “If you put more games on the weekend you will have two games at the same time potentially, which is a consideration for the broadcaster who likes to broadcast every game live. “But, equally, if every game is not broadcast live there might be more incentive for people to get along and watch it themselves.” This potential shift in the broadcast agreement comes at a time when Lancaster is considering a raft of potential innovations in an effort to rejuvenate the game for fans and players.
Live NPC matches may be axed in TV deal
New Zealand Rugby will ask Sky TV to consider a domestic competition where some games aren’t shown live.
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@Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
F*ck them! Really great if you can't live in your home province and go to games!
New Zealand Rugby will ask Sky TV to consider a domestic competition where some games aren’t shown live. The radical shift is being driven by a survey of 2500 fans around the shape of the Mitre 10 Cup as NZR prepares to go the broadcast market after the existing deals expires this year. Sky is in the box seat but they are no longer the only option, with Spark keen to increase its sports coverage. NZR’s head of participation and development, Steve Lancaster, told me on Radio Sport that the survey showed fans like the Mitre Cup, its format and the fact it’s a national competition. “But it doesn’t take a lot to figure out that crowds have declined at matches over recent years.” One reason for that is Sky’s saturation coverage - something NZR now wants to reconsider. “One thing we are considering and are putting to them (the fans surveyed) is ‘are the times of days and days of the week this competition is played something that is impacting your decision as to whether you want to go along and watch’? “What we are hearing is more afternoon games would be positive and more games on the weekend. “If you put more games on the weekend you will have two games at the same time potentially, which is a consideration for the broadcaster who likes to broadcast every game live. “But, equally, if every game is not broadcast live there might be more incentive for people to get along and watch it themselves.” This potential shift in the broadcast agreement comes at a time when Lancaster is considering a raft of potential innovations in an effort to rejuvenate the game for fans and players.
Live NPC matches may be axed in TV deal
New Zealand Rugby will ask Sky TV to consider a domestic competition where some games aren’t shown live.
I'm not as passionate about the NPC as you, Stargazer so I don't really care.
One thing that I do think is that if not showing them live, gets more people to the matches, then that is a good thing. I don't believe that would end up being the case though.
I just think it would slowly dissolve into itself and become not worth carrying on with
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@Hooroo yeah I dont think it will increase crowds by enough...even to do 'black outs' like I believe some other sports do in the town/city where the game it.
Thing is, this review (about attendance numbers) is about 10 years too late!
I go to every home game anyway, but I dont get to many away games, and I certainly aint gonna be paying $600+ for return flights (plus accomodation, food, tickets etc) to Invercargill to watch Northland play Southland.
