Olympics Thread
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@Billy-Tell said in Olympics Thread:
One sport nz should do better in is mountain biking. Surely we have the tracks to become world class. I mean the brits are up there.
And it’s another sport sitting down 😉
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
oh, and looking at these venues really rammed home just how absolute shit 2032 in Brisbane is going to be.
Just wait until we have to pay for it all. Coates in his great wisdom has said spending $2 billion updating the QSAC stadium is the right approach. You know, the thing that's almost never used with no public transport?
He also said "just trust us, we know what we're doing". Which screams this thing requires massive governance and oversight.
So I understand the IOC's perspective. They have been scarred by cities like Rio spending billions of taxpayer dollars on facilities that turn into white elephants. They realised that host city model is now unsustainable.
The QSAC option is clearly a bad one, but the IOC are now red hot on the idea of utilising existing infrastructure. They can't be seen to be backing another 2B+ new stadium regardless of the arguments that clearly point to it being the right option for Brisbane.
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@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
there is no plan yet because both parties are staying very very quiet until after the election.
The QSAC plan is just the worst, and watching the athletics at SdF rammed that home sans lube.
I look forward to the Queensland premier holding a press conference in about 2 years saying they've pulled the plug, it's too expensive.
It's extra interesting since Paris has apparently covered its costs and LA is planning on reusing existing infrastructure, so Brisbane bucking the trend a bit by buying a ton of new kit.
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@Cyclops said in Olympics Thread:
@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
there is no plan yet because both parties are staying very very quiet until after the election.
The QSAC plan is just the worst, and watching the athletics at SdF rammed that home sans lube.
I look forward to the Queensland premier holding a press conference in about 2 years saying they've pulled the plug, it's too expensive.
It's extra interesting since Paris has apparently covered its costs and LA is planning on reusing existing infrastructure, so Brisbane bucking the trend a bit by buying a ton of new kit.
But they aren't buying new kit (except for the swimming centre), they are just upgrading the existing shitty kit to the point where they may as well just spend the money on a new stadium.
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Brisbane doesn't have any infrastructure. Suncorp is the best stadium but it's not that big (seating or field-wise).
Public Transport isn't there.The 'gabba is small and at the end of life. And if you have been there on a sell-out, you see the enormous problems getting in and out. I doubt it meets Olympic H&S requirements.
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@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
Yes the use of eternal Parisian landmarks in events will be hard to replicate in Brisbane.
Hats off to the French though. I read somewhere that if the photos were black and white you'd think it was part of the 1904 World's Fair or something.
My crystal ball tells me there will be plenty of spectacular areial footage of the XXXX brewery, unique close up shots of the King Wally statue. And wait till they have the swimming leg of the triathlon down the Brisbane river with the view of decade old office buildings and apartment blocks.
Can’t wait.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Olympics Thread:
wait till they have the swimming leg of the triathlon down the Brisbane river
the time will be slick as everyone gets chased by bull sharks
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@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
Brisbane doesn't have any infrastructure. Suncorp is the best stadium but it's not that big (seating or field-wise).
Public Transport isn't there.The 'gabba is small and at the end of life. And if you have been there on a sell-out, you see the enormous problems getting in and out. I doubt it meets Olympic H&S requirements.
I think the right approach is to bulldoze the decaying Gabba and build a top quality 40-50k round stadium like they have in Perth. They will get year-round use out of it between the cricket and the Lions so no 'white elephant' concerns.
But apparently that's a 'megastadium' according to your dumb cvnt Premier that would be a horrendous waste of money. We'll nationalise petrol stations instead.
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we've discussed it before, but the dumbest fucking thing about the temporary plan is, the 'gabba will need to be rebuilt in 2030 anyway.
It's 100% politics and it is fucking bullshit.
Optus in Perth is awesome, and should be the blueprint. As you say, the olympic stadium won't be a white elephant because the cricket and the Lions gives it year round use. they also need a bigger concert venue.
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@barbarian said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
oh, and looking at these venues really rammed home just how absolute shit 2032 in Brisbane is going to be.
Just wait until we have to pay for it all. Coates in his great wisdom has said spending $2 billion updating the QSAC stadium is the right approach. You know, the thing that's almost never used with no public transport?
He also said "just trust us, we know what we're doing". Which screams this thing requires massive governance and oversight.
So I understand the IOC's perspective. They have been scarred by cities like Rio spending billions of taxpayer dollars on facilities that turn into white elephants. They realised that host city model is now unsustainable.
The QSAC option is clearly a bad one, but the IOC are now red hot on the idea of utilising existing infrastructure. They can't be seen to be backing another 2B+ new stadium regardless of the arguments that clearly point to it being the right option for Brisbane.
A sure sign that due diligence isn't being met. The Gabba actually needs to be rebuilt and doing so under the guise of the Olympics could provide Brisbane with modern AFL and cricket infrastructure for another 40 years for double, perhaps triple the cost. Which would make it an actual investment because unlike QSAC, it would get used.
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@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
@ACT-Crusader said in Olympics Thread:
wait till they have the swimming leg of the triathlon down the Brisbane river
the time will be slick as everyone gets chased by bull sharks
Start at The Regatta with transition at South Bank.
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@mariner4life said in Olympics Thread:
oh, and looking at these venues really rammed home just how absolute shit 2032 in Brisbane is going to be.
To be fair, Paris will be hard to beat. Old world cities like Paris, London, Rome just have so many globally recognisable landmarks. Paris is a particularly well designed city. It will be interesting to see how LA do. Marathon course around Disneyland?
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Regular Monday-itis magnified 10x today with the end of the games. I've lapped it all up, lost countless hours of sleep, watched as much as I possibly could. Some epic moments, the joy and heartache on display as good as ever.
I might head off to bed for a couple of weeks I think.
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@Damo said in Olympics Thread:
Wollaston in 5th after 2 events in the omnium. Not many points off a bronze. I don't know how they are able to work out the placings in the tempo race for those who scored no points at all. Anyone know?
place across the line last lap.
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Well it's our best Olympics ever as far as gold medals go (which tbh is the true barometer) - have we ever finished 11th on the medal table before??
Probably a once in the lifetime Olympics for all of us, but what massive progress we made from our lonely gold in Sydney.
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@Windows97 We've finished higher than 11th!!
In time honoured tradition all our golds and all bar two of our medals won sitting on our arses
