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  • TimT Away
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    <p>Is Dixon actually better than Shields?</p>

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="602073" data-time="1470020082">
    <div>
    <p>Is Dixon actually better than Shields?</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I think he was for most of the season, because Shields was pretty average except for the last few games in which he seemed to improve quite a bit. I think with Dixon it was exactly the opposite, started great, but average in the last few games.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="602073" data-time="1470020082">
    <div>
    <p>Is Dixon actually better than Shields?</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>The stats, if interested:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Shields / Dixon</p>
    <p>Games</p>
    <p>15 / 15</p>
    <p>Minutes</p>
    <p>1064 / 1112</p>
    <p>Tries</p>
    <p>2 / 4</p>
    <p>Carries</p>
    <p>112 / 69</p>
    <p>Metres</p>
    <p>219 / 299</p>
    <p>Clean Breaks</p>
    <p>5 / 12</p>
    <p>Defenders Beaten</p>
    <p>5 / 12</p>
    <p>Offloads</p>
    <p>4 / 11</p>
    <p>Passes</p>
    <p>29 / 59</p>
    <p>Lineout Catches</p>
    <p>15 / 63</p>
    <p>Lineout Steals</p>
    <p>0 / 11</p>
    <p>Tackles</p>
    <p>141 / 103</p>
    <p>Missed Tackles</p>
    <p>25 / 16</p>
    <p>Tackles Success</p>
    <p>84.8 / 86.6</p>
    <p>Turnovers Conceded</p>
    <p>16 / 11</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="601960" data-time="1470003501">
    <div>
    <p> </p>
    <div> </div>
    <div><strong>Forwards:</strong><br><br><strong>Hookers</strong><br>
    Dane Coles (Wellington / Hurricanes, 39)<br>
    Codie Taylor (Canterbury / Crusaders, 5)<br>
    Nathan Harris (Bay of Plenty / Chiefs, 4)<br><br><strong>Props</strong><br>
    Wyatt Crockett (Canterbury / Crusaders, 48)<br>
    Charlie Faumuina (Auckland / Blues, 36)<br>
    Owen Franks (Canterbury / Crusaders, 80)<br>
    Joe Moody (Canterbury / Crusaders, 14)<br>
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Auckland / Blues, 1)<br><br><strong>Locks</strong><br>
    Brodie Retallick (Hawke's Bay / Chiefs, 50)<br>
    Luke Romano (Canterbury / Crusaders, 24)<br>
    Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland / Blues, 9)<br>
    Samuel Whitelock (Canterbury / Crusaders, 75)<br><br><strong>Loose Forwards</strong><br>
    Sam Cane (Bay of Plenty / Chiefs, 34)<br>
    Elliot Dixon (Southland / Highlanders, 1)<br>
    Jerome Kaino (Auckland / Blues, 69)<br>
    Kieran Read, captain (Canterbury / Crusaders, 87)<br>
    Ardie Savea (Wellington / Hurricanes, 2)<br>
    Liam Squire ( Ta$man / Highlanders, 1)<br><br><strong>Backs:</strong><br><br><strong>Halfbacks</strong><br>
    Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Waikato / Chiefs, 21)<br>
    TJ Perenara (Wellington / Hurricanes, 19)<br>
    Aaron Smith (Manawatu / Highlanders, 50)<br><br><strong>First five-eighths</strong><br>
    Beauden Barrett (Taranaki / Hurricanes, 39)<br>
    Aaron Cruden (Manawatu / Chiefs, 39)<br>
    Lima Sopoaga (Southland / Highlanders, 2)<br><br><strong>Midfielders</strong><br>
    Ryan Crotty (Canterbury / Crusaders, 18)<br>
    Malakai Fekitoa (Auckland / Highlanders, 15)<br>
    George Moala (Auckland / Blues, 2)<br>
    Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau / Chiefs, 33)<br><br><strong>Outside backs</strong><br>
    Israel Dagg (Hawke's Bay / Crusaders, 51)<br>
    Waisake Naholo (Taranaki / Highlanders, 6)<br>
    Julian Savea (Wellington/ Hurricanes, 43)<br>
    Ben Smith (Otago / Highlanders, 51)</div>
    <p> </p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Hookers - tick</p>
    <p>Props - tick. But Crockett is ageing. Needs some forward-thinking selections for the EOYT.</p>
    <p>Locks - Romano argh. He's not going to get any better and his best is just not top AB quality IMHO. Once again, hope EOYT sees some new blood.</p>
    <p>Loose forwards - happy enough. But Dixon had better step up or he should be gone. I won't be surprised to see Akira Ioane given a go on the EOYT.</p>
    <p>Halfbacks - tick. Weber had a mini-mare in the weekend.</p>
    <p>1st-fives - tick. Easiest AB selection at the moment.</p>
    <p>Midfield - tick. SB has to have a lock on the 12 shirt, I'd hope 13 goes to Crotty or Moala.  Where does Ngatai fit in for the EOYT?</p>
    <p>Ouside backs - tick.  I was beating Lowe's drum 2 weeks ago, but had a pretty terrible (certainly not AB standard) semi-final. Who makes way for NMS in October?  Savea seems a protected species so we see.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I think the ABs will comfortably win the RC.  Argentina will comfortably come last.  SA & Australia fighting it out for 2nd.</p>

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    #216

    <p>Romano is entering Ralph/Hamilton/Broomhall territory in terms of how maligned an AB can be.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Definitely a Cantab thing.</p>

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    #217

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="602073" data-time="1470020082">
    <div>
    <p>Is Dixon actually better than Shields?</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>From the stats above, certainly looks that way.</p>

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    <p>Interesting to see that players who have been terrible during the QF and/or the SF have been included or added (Dixon, Romano, TKB, Fekitoa, Todd). I guess Todd has been added for injury cover since there are no other proven OSF. I am among those who think that he is not physical enough for the highest level as the game against the Lions has clearly showed. But the Pryors and Gibson are not (yet) convincing so Todd's inclusion as a special guest is not so surprising at all.</p>

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    #219

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="cgrant" data-cid="602122" data-time="1470035459">
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    <p>Interesting to see that players who have been terrible during the QF and/or the SF have been included or added (Dixon, Romano, TKB, Fekitoa, Todd). I guess Todd has been added for injury cover since there are no other proven OSF. I am among those who think that he is not physical enough for the highest level as the game against the Lions has clearly showed. But the Pryors and Gibson are not (yet) convincing so Todd's inclusion as a special guest is not so surprising at all.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>These selectors have always had a soft spot for players from a certain team. Its not quite as bad as the Hart Wylie days yet but if the Crusaders ever won the title it likely would be.</p>

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    #220

    <p>THese selectors have a fine track record with selections and winning, so I'm prepared to believe they select on more than just the Super colours, but thats just me! </p>

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    #221

    <p>AB coaches/selectors say anything to justify their selections.  The only news of interest will be when the team to play Aust is announced.</p>

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    #222

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Winger" data-cid="602123" data-time="1470036426"><p>
    These selectors have always had a soft spot for players from a certain team. Its not quite as bad as the Hart Wylie days yet but if the Crusaders ever won the title it likely would be.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Suggest you add "h" as the 2nd letter of your username. <br><br>
    Painful.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    #223

    <p>What? A conspiracy to give Crusaders players preference for AB selection? Gosh, it's not like Winger to believe in a conspiracy. So out of character. Must have some merit.</p>

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    #224

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="602133" data-time="1470038642">
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    <p>What? A conspiracy to give Crusaders players preference for AB selection? Gosh, it's not like Winger to believe in a conspiracy. So out of character. Must have some merit.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Thankfully in the Henry and Smith days the selections seemed to fairly represent the performance of the teams. Now its gone back to a Crusaders bias. They have 9 players in this team. Every other team has less. Romano is a joke selection for one.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Its very clear bias. I hoped this crap was finished after we got rid of Hate and Wylie but it seems not.</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #225

    <p>I think Romano is there to make Julian Savea look slim.</p>

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    #226

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="602125" data-time="1470036783"><p>THese selectors have a fine track record with selections and winning, so I'm prepared to believe they select on more than just the Super colours, but thats just me!<br></p></blockquote>
    <br>
    NZRFU Shill

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  • TordahT Offline
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    #227

    <p>very disappointed not to see Luatua in there. He's probably been the best loose forward since the June break and certainly deserved a spot. Is Ngatai still out bc of the concussion?</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #228

    I know we shouldn't question these guys, and they have more info than we do, and are tasked with creating culture, but<br><br>
    Not taking Luatua is mystifying. He's been a dominant player who obviously sorted out what got him dropped in the first place. <br><br>
    Have we reached the point where super form only counts if you are new? That's a dangerous proposition

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #229

    Those lineout and metres per run stats for Dixon would be pretty appealing to the AB selectors. Plus he has good leadership credentials from what I hear. <br><br>
    Not overly surprised with the Luatua omission given he's been on the fringe for a while now and Dixon and Squire haven't yet done anything to say they aren't up to test level. There are always one or two players that "miss out" from a fan's perspective. <br><br>
    I've been critical of Romano over the years, but he was better this season. There must be some key stats at test level that they like about his game which warrants continued selection. <br><br><br>
    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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  • R Offline
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    #230

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Username" data-cid="602076" data-time="1470024972">
    <div>
    <p>The stats, if interested:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Shields / Dixon</p>
    <p>Games</p>
    <p>15 / 15</p>
    <p>Minutes</p>
    <p>1064 / 1112</p>
    <p>Tries</p>
    <p>2 / 4</p>
    <p>Carries</p>
    <p>112 / 69</p>
    <p>Metres</p>
    <p>219 / 299</p>
    <p>Clean Breaks</p>
    <p>5 / 12</p>
    <p>Defenders Beaten</p>
    <p>5 / 12</p>
    <p>Offloads</p>
    <p>4 / 11</p>
    <p>Passes</p>
    <p>29 / 59</p>
    <p>Lineout Catches</p>
    <p>15 / 63</p>
    <p>Lineout Steals</p>
    <p>0 / 11</p>
    <p>Tackles</p>
    <p>141 / 103</p>
    <p>Missed Tackles</p>
    <p>25 / 16</p>
    <p>Tackles Success</p>
    <p>84.8 / 86.6</p>
    <p>Turnovers Conceded</p>
    <p>16 / 11</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>where are these from? wouldn't mind seeing luatua as well.</p>

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  • sharkS Offline
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    #231

    <p>I don't know where all the love for James Lowe comes from, or quite why some posters believe he's on the fringe. There was a single speculative story in the Waikato rag a few weeks ago talking him up, based purely on opinion. Nanai has been impressive and warrants a look in a training camp, so I'm pleased to see him named as cover. I'm also a big Moala fan, so am rapt to see him there.</p>

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