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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
If the ABs were really concerned about this record, they'd spend a week playing Latvia and Luxembourg to knock it off.
Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.
Let's face it - if our soccer team racked up the longest streak by beating the likes of Samoa and Tonga, we'd be claiming it.
Would we? It would be total bollocks if we were.
Well, lets face it - we claimed, "Only team not to lose at the 20XX Football World Cup". It would be a fact, just not a particularly meritorious one.
Might not even merit a Halberg!
Edit: Snap Te Waio!
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@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
If the ABs were really concerned about this record, they'd spend a week playing Latvia and Luxembourg to knock it off.
Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.
Let's face it - if our soccer team racked up the longest streak by beating the likes of Samoa and Tonga, we'd be claiming it.
Would we? It would be total bollocks if we were.
Well, lets face it - we claimed, "Only team not to lose at the 20XX Football World Cup". It would be a fact, just not a particularly meritorious one.
Might not even merit a Halberg!
Edit: Snap Te Waio!
That's the royal WE of course. Plenty thought that was total bollocks as well.
At any rate, this isn't about what WE would brag about, its about comparing records. In this case it's like comparing the innings batting record in test cricket with the 1,000 odd runs scored by that school kid in India. A distinction has to be made between the elite level and a level that is, quite frankly, a complete joke.
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@TeWaio said in 16 in a row ...:
We definitely claim being the only unbeaten team at the 2010 soccer world cup
Think the 'we' should be replaced with 'some'
While there isn't really any 'divisions' clearly there are a number of them in the irb.
My sons team went about 35 games without a loss in 2012-2014....I mean they are tier 99 or so and were U8 so would that still count?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
In this case it's like comparing the innings batting record in test cricket with the 1,000 odd runs scored by that school kid in India. A distinction has to be made between the elite level and a level that is, quite frankly, a complete joke.
Yes - and people do. I daresay that if you look in the Guinness Book of Records you'll see Highest First Class Score - Brian Lara 501. Highest test score - I think it's Hayden isn't it?
But, the highest individual score ever made will be the Indian kid and good for him.
His record is about as meritorious as Cyprus', but it is nonetheless an indisputable fact.
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@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
In this case it's like comparing the innings batting record in test cricket with the 1,000 odd runs scored by that school kid in India. A distinction has to be made between the elite level and a level that is, quite frankly, a complete joke.
Yes - and people do. I daresay that if you look in the Guinness Book of Records you'll see Highest First Class Score - Brian Lara 501. Highest test score - I think it's Hayden isn't it?
But, the highest individual score ever made will be the Indian kid and good for him.
His record is about as meritorious as Cyprus', but it is nonetheless an indisputable fact.
I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that the Cyprus record can in any way equate to what the ABs have achieved. It's straight out farking retarded. The GBOR also has thousands of records like the most jelly eaten with chopsticks in a minute. Should that record then be given the same level of respect and merit as some of the genuinely incredible achievements in the book?
As I said, a distinction has to be made and a distinction has been made. To say NZ has to beat Cyprus to have the record is nonsense.
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The Cyprus record is mere pub trivia
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that the Cyprus record can in any way equate to what the ABs have achieved. It's straight out farking retarded.
I can't believe you think I'm arguing that.
Jesus wept man - that would be ridiculous!
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@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that the Cyprus record can in any way equate to what the ABs have achieved. It's straight out farking retarded.
I can't believe you think I'm arguing that.
Jesus wept man - that would be ridiculous!
Then what are you arguing about? If there is absolutely no merit to the Cypriot record then why say that the Abs have to beat it to take the mantle?
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Ask me a different question - do I give a fuck if we don't beat Cyprus' record?
A. No - I don't. I'm not particularly invested in the Tier 1 record.
This seems to have become one of those odd internet arguments - I'm pretty sure I understand your point and I'm pretty sure you understand mine.
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@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
Ask me a different question - do I give a fuck if we don't beat Cyprus' record?
A. No - I don't. I'm not particularly invested in the Tier 1 record.
This seems to have become one of those odd internet arguments - I'm pretty sure I understand your point and I'm pretty sure you understand mine.
Mate it would help if I actually knew what your original point was.
My original post was in response to suggestions that the AB wouldn't be holding or breaking the real record, because that record that is in fact held by Cyprus. As someone who has witnessed that level of rugby first-hand and (terrifying enough) could have actually played it, I find it ludicrous that these records could be compared in any way shape or form.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
Ask me a different question - do I give a fuck if we don't beat Cyprus' record?
A. No - I don't. I'm not particularly invested in the Tier 1 record.
This seems to have become one of those odd internet arguments - I'm pretty sure I understand your point and I'm pretty sure you understand mine.
Mate it would help if I actually knew what your original point was.
My original post was in response to suggestions that the AB wouldn't be holding or breaking the real record, because that record that is in fact held by Cyprus. As someone who has witnessed that level of rugby first-hand and (terrifying enough) could have actually played it, I find it ludicrous that these records could be compared in any way shape or form.
Well, here's my original point:
Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.To be honest, I can't see how I can make that much clearer. Regardless of how shit Cyprus might be it seems to me to be an indisputable fact. In exactly the same way that Matt Hayden can't claim the highest ever score in cricket, because an Indian kid scored a thousand against some primary school kids.
I fully understand your point - which is why they have created the "Most consecutive victories by Tier 1 countries" and "highest ever score in test cricket".
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TR - I'm not keen to perpetuate the conversation, but - whichever NZ province has won the most consecutive matches against other NZ provinces holds the record for consecutive provincial victories.
It's probably Auckland in which case everyone will be sort of happy - but, if it's Whanganui (with or without an "h") in the Heartland Championship, then Whanganui it is.
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@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
TR - I'm not keen to perpetuate the conversation, but - whichever NZ province has won the most consecutive matches against other NZ provinces holds the record for consecutive provincial victories.
It's probably Auckland in which case everyone will be sort of happy - but, if it's Whanganui (with or without an "h") in the Heartland Championship, then Whanganui it is.
Point being there were records, for points scored, tries scored etc in each division, dont think there was often this debate about one division claiming thier record was the 'real' record.
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@taniwharugby said in 16 in a row ...:
@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
TR - I'm not keen to perpetuate the conversation, but - whichever NZ province has won the most consecutive matches against other NZ provinces holds the record for consecutive provincial victories.
It's probably Auckland in which case everyone will be sort of happy - but, if it's Whanganui (with or without an "h") in the Heartland Championship, then Whanganui it is.
Point being there were records, for points scored, tries scored etc in each division, dont think there was often this debate about one division claiming thier record was the 'real' record.
Why are you guys continuing to persecute me?
I only stated a (pedantic, thanks Kirwan) fact!!!
It is seriously not an interesting conversation!
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@Chris-B. said:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:
@Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:
Ask me a different question - do I give a fuck if we don't beat Cyprus' record?
A. No - I don't. I'm not particularly invested in the Tier 1 record.
This seems to have become one of those odd internet arguments - I'm pretty sure I understand your point and I'm pretty sure you understand mine.
Mate it would help if I actually knew what your original point was.
My original post was in response to suggestions that the AB wouldn't be holding or breaking the real record, because that record that is in fact held by Cyprus. As someone who has witnessed that level of rugby first-hand and (terrifying enough) could have actually played it, I find it ludicrous that these records could be compared in any way shape or form.
Well, here's my original point:
Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.To be honest, I can't see how I can make that much clearer. Regardless of how shit Cyprus might be it seems to me to be an indisputable fact. In exactly the same way that Matt Hayden can't claim the highest ever score in cricket, because an Indian kid scored a thousand against some primary school kids.
I fully understand your point - which is why they have created the "Most consecutive victories by Tier 1 countries" and "highest ever score in test cricket".
And as mentioned, it's ridiculous to even mention them in the same breath. I can't recall a test cricketer ever breaking the record for runs or wickets and someone then coming with the caveat that someone at a much much lower level got more runs or wickets.
How absurd would this sound:
"Matt Hayden has broken the all-time test batting record. But of course he will have to score another 600 runs if he wants to break the all-time record set by a school kid on a patch of dirt in India who was dropped over a dozen times."
You say yourself that the Cypriot record is a joke but why then claim that it is some kind of benchmark that the abs have to better?
